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Motors Bit-Tech F1 2019 thread - Round 15: Singapore

Discussion in 'General' started by RedFlames, 25 Nov 2018.

  1. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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  2. David

    David Take my advice — I’m not using it.

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    I thought you couldn't appeal a five second penalty any way?

    So, essentially, Ferrari have said "we're going to stop pissing in the wind".
     
  3. CrapBag

    CrapBag Well-Known Member

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    Maybe why?

     
  4. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    People passing judgment, us included, invariably forget the stewards get acess to/see stuff we don't...

    ...it seems that the teams/drivers sometimes forget it too.
     
  5. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman Don't phone it's just for fun.

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    Watched some of analysis stuff on it, seems it boils down the the rule stating that when returning to the track, you must leave at least 1 cars width between you and the edge of the track (the white line, not run-off or wall). Vettel didn't leave a cars width so got the penalty. Lack of control or intent are not considerations, just the distance. So fair cop I guess.
     
  6. Wakka

    Wakka Yo, eat this, ya?

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    This is the ticket. A good article exploring this case, as well as a couple of comparisons.
     
  7. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    *sigh*

     
  8. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Well-Known Member

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    If the FIA have any sense they will dismiss it out of hand because Ferrari failed to lodge said appeal within the time limit.
    If Ferrari press the issue I'd hand both cars grid penalties for being dicks.
     
  9. David

    David Take my advice — I’m not using it.

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    Let me guess, they withdrew their objections initially and quietly started making noises to the FIA and FOM that they're considering thier participation in the sport. Then they let it settle in for a day or two and re-state their objections?

    Sound likely?
     
  10. RedFlames

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    'Those new WEC Hypercar rules look mighty tempting...' --Ferrari to FOM/Liberty... probably...
     
  11. Anfield

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    I thought penalties that are completed before the chequered flag are final?

    So basically the only way they could get the win back at the green table would be to get the opposition disqualified after the fact over say too bendy wings or too much horsefly urine in the tank?
     
  12. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman Don't phone it's just for fun.

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    They'll no doubt use the sandy vagina clause.
     
  13. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Well-Known Member

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    That's fine Ferrari, we'll just take back our $205million and if you ever come back you will get nothing.

    In total seriousness Ferrari leaving would solve as many problems as it creates for Formula 1. The biggest whiner when it comes to rule changes would be gone, splitting that money between the bottom six teams (that do not get the participation bungs that Merc, Red Bull and McRenault get) would help the teams finances enormously and outside of Italy I bet the series wouldn't suffer as much as Ferrari like to think.
     
  14. veato

    veato I should be working

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    After doing some reading it appears the "right of review" process is separate from an appeal, hence why they can - and did - decide to not appeal, yet can still initiate the right to review process.

     
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  17. CrapBag

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    Does that mean all the bullcrap from Ferrari will stop now :).

    Mind you looks like Lewis has just done something very similar in what I presume is free practice, if he doesn't get some sort of penalty I'd be surprised, mind you I kind of hope he doesn't just to further annoy Ferrari lol

    How do they handle that, a five second penalty isn't going to do anything in practice so I presume its grid places.
     
  18. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    Obstruction in practices and qualifications are usually handled by 3 place grid penalty.
     
  19. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman Don't phone it's just for fun.

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    :hehe::hehe::hehe:

    Also, if that's the analysis he did with Button, I'm sure their conclusion was that while as racers they don't like the penalty, the decision was correct?
     
  20. Anfield

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    What kind of twit at Ferrari thought it would be a good idea to try selling the footage as "new" just because some dude from Sky is talking over it?

    and are they doing the same thing with their engines? It would explain a lot:p
     

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