Windows Bit-tech League of Legends thread

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by Djayness, 19 Jan 2011.

  1. Tibby

    Tibby Back Once Again

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    EU/UK Servers :(
     
  2. b0ng0

    b0ng0 Reddomitlum

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    Uh, 7 games today each one worse than the last. I don't know how this is possible but each game I end up being on a team that just either doesn't talk or has one sub-level 10 player against a team of what could easily be arranged teams every time (all pretty much level 30). Kind of makes it seem pointless trying to play anymore :-/
     
  3. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    I checked the stats of the only person online in my friends list... are you the Trundle with a string of defeats? :wallbash:

    I've had exactly the same issues over on the US server (was at +40 wins... but this week i got put down to +25).. people either not communicating, feeding, making stupid decisions with regards to team comp or just being retards in general.
     
  4. Viskey404

    Viskey404 What's a Dremel?

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    I'm sad how i never gave this game chance, i played HoN first and i believe its worth the extra money to have a decent chance of winning if you haven't bought things from the store
     
  5. b0ng0

    b0ng0 Reddomitlum

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    Haha, yeah that's me. Played some really good games on Friday night, good team communication etc. Most of the games yesterday, at least two players in the team would start fighting with each other like as soon as they join the game one would say "Me mid", then the other would say "No me".

    I know most of that is probably down to the average age of gamers these days, so it probably literally is just two kids fighting with each other. Maybe the fact that there's so many different countries in the EU that communication is a problem. Wondering if it's worth trying out the US server... got any experience with it?
     
  6. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    I started off on the US server (by accident) and then briefly moved over to EU and ultimately back again to US where it become my main.

    It wasn't really anything to do with skill level or lack of communication at the time (i don't think i'd played enough to really know about that) but it was more just the fact that i was Level 30 with a lot more Champions and/or Runes that i was used to having.

    The playstyle between EU and US is also different, i do admit that at my current EU level (23) i believe that the EU are generally slightly more skilled in terms of map awareness for late game pushing. On multiple occassions i've seen people push down a tower top/bottom and then retreat before the enemy team arrives just because they saw they were on the opposite side of the map. Sometimes it happens on US, but not as frequently IMO.

    On the flipside however, i find that teamfights are slightly worse on the EU in that trying to get a full team to push mid and force a teamfight can be a pain simply because they wish to push a separate lane as a distraction and/or take down a tower. Don't get me wrong, it's a valid strategy, but it's my personal opinion and experience that winning teamfights is the easiest and quickest way to achieve this (although obviously if you're underlevelled or they've got baron this isn't such a good idea).

    TBH the only things you can buy from the store that make a difference ingame are Runes, which offer small (but somewhat noticeable) improvements to champions. However these can't be bought with real money and must be exchanged with the ingame currency you earn by playing.

    Also Runes are tiered depending on level making it so that you can't buy the best Runes off the bat at Level 1... in fact there's not point buying Runes until you're above Level 20 (when you can get access to Tier 3, the highest tier). By that point you've usually got quite a few champions you enjoy playing and as such your IP can be spent on Runes instead.

    Ultimately it does mean that someone who's played more than you has an advantage, but i would never ever say that by not buying runes you don't have a decent chance of winning. There have been multiple times that me or my friends had the wrong Rune/Mastery pages set up and still went on to win. Obviously the same is true of the reverse but i would attribute that more on my failure to adapt to not having them, rather than the opposing team having them and beating me.
     
  7. mansueto

    mansueto Too broke to mod

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    VD I'm going to have to add you / you add me! You have a lot of experience and I play with a few friends of mine who aren't bad either and we always get on skype. I prefer skype with pre-made teams as the communication is generally marginally better.
     
  8. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    Haha, i'm not really that experienced but it'd be nice to have a few more people to game with.

    My Summoner name is SethAnub1s, i'll add you whenever i next bother to play.

    My recent games have been getting worse and worse:

    Last game on the US was unfortunate since my friend (and duo queue partner) had internet issues and kept DC'ing leaving us with a 4v5 for the majority of the game. We'd thankfully managed to hold our own due to their stupidity (their Eve kept wandering in on her own even though we had Oracles) and we kept mopping up the ensuing 4v4. They'd pushed down every lane and inhib and we fed off the farm majorly, with almost all of us having full item sets before them.

    However the turning point was after my friend managed to reconnect and we beat them in a 5v4 (their Shaco never turned up to the fight). This was our chance to counter push, so as i was running down mid (as Singed) to backdoor a turret i told our Irelia and Warwick to come help me (the best pushers we had) and Fiddle/Janna to stay defend the base (3 lanes of minions). As luck would have it however, whilst Irelia followed, Warwick decided to farm mid and Fiddle decided to run after me as well ( i mean what's he going to do to a tower?). What then happened was their Shaco turned up and subsequently took down both our Nexus towers since Janna can't really do anything like kill him... by the time our Fiddle got the message and b'd it was too late. Obviously the next teamfight we had, whilst we killed 3 of them, their Renekton and Shaco just made a beeline for the Nexus to win the game.

    Then went over to the EU to play with a friend instead, hopefully to get some better games...

    - First game our Fiddle never connected and then our Renekton was first blood 1v1 against a DPS Soraka (no joke) and then Rage Quit. So we were left with a 3v5... we messed around a bit and then ultimately surrendered (obviously).

    - The next game was just as stupid with our team constantly split pushing. We'd managed to get our LeBlanc fed, but she kept turning up after teamfights to mop up and then obviously she's rather worthless with regards to pushing out a lane or taking a tower. She then had internet issues and dc'd just before a major teamfight and kept dc'ing subsequently after. Since she was our main source of burst dps we then lost the game since their Olaf just ran rampant through our team. Our MF and Lee Sin were pretty worthless, the latter kept on relying on his Q to dive into a fight instead of actually just walking there himself.

    In that last game there was also the amazingly frustrating thing where you have Dragon warded... you see them approach Dragon. You then ping to let everyone know, at which point your team then takes positions around Dragon. I then poke my head in to confirm that they're there and we do the whole "Tank Dance of who's going to Initiate". I then subsequently get a mass of pings on Dragon so decide that's the cue for me to go in Singed style and stir things up, which is what i do. Their whole team leaps on me and i'm doing the whole Singed run away thing... and what does my team do? They derp around on the outside throwing in pokes as opposed to properly engaging when they clearly told me to go in. I subsequently die, my duo queue partner dies since we were coordinating and then they decide to run in one by one to try and salvage the situation and end up dying.

    So yeah... i've not had a good string of games lately... might just take a break for a few days.
     
  9. Edwards

    Edwards Minimodder

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    Thought I'd already said, but apparently not. I play on the US servers (EU servers weren't done by riot when I started with my friends, so they were about a week or so behind on patches, and we never wanted to switch). Usually running premade teams but usually lacking a good 4th/5th.

    Hit me up if you want to play. My Summoner Name is NefariousNipple and I've been using Amumu recently, great fun when paired with a Shen!
     
  10. mansueto

    mansueto Too broke to mod

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    I'll add both of you as I normally play with 2 / 3 friends, always nice to have some familiar faces too.
     
  11. Edwards

    Edwards Minimodder

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    Had a couple of games tonight that went pretty well. Dunno what the hell was going on in the last game though :D

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  12. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    I accepted your invite... ended up logging in a losing a game in a premade 4.

    You might find me hard to play with though :p... had a slight falling out with one of my friends that i sometimes play with (and generally socialise with outside of the game).

    It's just one of those times where you've got nothing against the skill of the player... just the decisions they make. Like when and how they initiate off of something, or their positioning prior to a teamfight etc.

    Didn't help that they pulled the "my score is better than yours though" card out on me after i made the point that they melted way too fast in teamfights, despite being the tank. Scores, yes, are an indicator of overall contribution to a game but i wouldn't ever say that it's an indicator of whether or not someone was playing better since there are usually so many other circumstances.

    For example, yes, they had more kills than me. I would attribute that to:

    a) You're jungle Rammus... you're ganking often. I'm solo top lane Morgana, i'm just going to farm 1v1 against a Renekton.

    b) Morgana IMO just isn't your typical Mage Carry like Annie, Leblanc and Veigar. IMO she's support, snaring people, giving them an MR debuff and having a great Ult. Sure she can output damage but i personally would'nt regard her as a main source of damage on a team anymore.

    And to be honest that's not what i was building her for either (RoA, Boots, Zhonya, GA). I was going for a more support orientated build, acting as a teamfight disruptor and a more Off-tank Mage since our other 3 players were Nocturne, Akali and Tryndamere... there's really no point in having 4 Carry/Assassins and a single Tank.

    And yes, i'm just venting because whilst i didn't agree with what they were doing, i also know i underperformed as well.

    Bleh.
     
  13. mansueto

    mansueto Too broke to mod

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    Ahh, we were up 20-10 before I played a game with you and though we were winning in kills losing in the tower / lane game. Team fights are a huge part where positioning is huge and can make or break the outcome, though targetting the carries first would also help.

    Also ranting. I HATE HATE HATE Karthas... who the hell gives a huge global dmg ult with a passive that lets em do more dmg after killing him so that they can just ult when you think your safe with your 1-3 bars of health left... HONESTLY
     
  14. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    TBH Karthus isn't all that great since he's extra squishy and relies on being in somewhat close proximity in order to do damage. Also he's somewhat a DPS over time Champ with Defile and Q spam so he lacks the burst of say Annie, LeBlanc or Veigar. That's not to say he doesn't hurt though as he can snowball fairly easily due to his Ult's early game dominance.

    However yesterday's game just went terrible because of Rammus... he got fed and overconfident, then died more to even out the teams.

    Fed Tanks are usually deadly just because they absorb lots of damage and disrupt the enemy teams a lot whilst the DPS gets to work. However he always went in whilst we were out of position so he didn't have sufficient DPS to really make a difference. Also Rammus isn't a particularly nuke-y/carry tank like Malphite or Amumu who can seriously hurt you whilst you're trying to kill him. Ultimately the enemy team just did all the right things and focused the underfed Carries/Champs and then when there was no dps left they focused Rammus down.

    Think it would have been GG a long time ago if you were fed those kills or i wasn't 0/2/12 for half the game.... by the time i actually started getting kills i'd moved out of Xin's Early-Mid game dominance needed to snowball.
     
  15. mansueto

    mansueto Too broke to mod

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    I was starting to pick up but bad positioning and being super squishy with tristana and it just didn't work out. Hopefully we can get a few games in tonight and hope for some improvements. Maybe i'll try someone new out or use a dif. champ that I have
     
  16. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    That game wasn't helpful with regards to having Kog on the enemy team. He's possibly the only person who can rival Tristana with regards to damage at range when he turns on his W.

    I may or not be on tonight, have a friend back from Uni and may go hang out with him. Although since you are on US timezone it does make it easier :p.
     
  17. mansueto

    mansueto Too broke to mod

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    What does everyone think of the new hero? Also, apparently they are completely re-working plank to improve him. Might be worth buying him now before they rework him and increase his price potentially.

    Also, anyone know why we got 350 rp for free? Can't really buy anything unless a skin is on sale but still curious to know why we got them for free.
     
  18. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    I've not actually seen the new champ in a game yet.

    Although i did watch a load of the Riot Livestream matches whilst they were patching.

    He very much looks to be a skillshot orientated Annie, capable of massive burst, although not quite as consistently. He also requires a lot of combination between his skills, similar to Leblanc in order to wreak the most havoc... i believe the optimal combo is E (single target) -> Q (single target + stun if hit by E) -> W (AoE, extra damage if hit by E or Q but delayed so you want the stun proc). Apparently his Ult is a bit random in terms of it bouncing to minions instead of champions, they may just make it have priority on champions within range.

    Overall i think he's a solid caster, capable of putting out a lot of burst, however what he gains in damage (all 4 spells are damage orientated), he lacks in reliable CC and requires skill combos to make the most of it.

    As for the 350 RP, that was because patch downtime lasted somewhere over 10 hours rather than the normal 4-6 (basically from when i woke up, servers were down to when i was going to sleep they'd only just come back up). Also because the EU servers also went down because of a bug during this time and obviously with enough QQ from both sides they gave out RP.

    Obviously, both EU and US are being ungrateful sods on the forums, complaining that they don't feel it's enough (compared to the (in)stability of the servers) and are going to boycott buying RP. EU forums keep complaining that their servers are terribad and that US are better, whilst US keep bitching that EU get IP Boosts whenever there's serious server issues.

    On a sidenote, Oh Ab, Ab! wherefore art thou Ab?. Like i just said, wtf have you been Ab :p.
     
  19. mansueto

    mansueto Too broke to mod

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    Unfortunately I won't be on very much next week and a half. I have exams through the next week and a half :(
     
  20. User-sam

    User-sam When in doubt, follow your nose.

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