Windows Bit-tech League of Legends thread

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by Djayness, 19 Jan 2011.

  1. b0ng0

    b0ng0 Reddomitlum

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    Anyone tried Rumble recently? I've barely seen him in recent games, but ones I have seen he seems incredibly hard to kill.

    I'm not really a fan of Riot giving so many champions the ability to create shields and self-heals (not including lifesteal items). I remember from my DotA days, really not that many heroes could do these things and I feel like it's jsut the same ability with a different name and graphics effect. :-/
     
  2. DLDeadbolt

    DLDeadbolt Space Cadet

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    @VBD: Dunno, i remember seeing on Tuesday that his Q had AD stacked along with AP (but I could just be getting heroes mixed up, though I havnt played anyone other than Ashe recently)

    @Bongo: Been playing him everyday m8. In the 1st few lvls he is unbelievably squishy. But once he gets a decent HP/HPRegen item, things start to turn.

    If he starts to chase you, keep weaving in and out of minions, so that they get hit by Harpoon. Never run in a straight line unless you can move FAST, his ulti can be devestating, and if you dont move away from it you will die.

    Got my 1st pentakill with him. Team was about to initiate a fight while at mid HP against their ful HP sitting around their destroyed mid tower. they go in, promply get stompt (none die luckily) and start to retreat drawing the enemy out.
    Que me boosting in (W), pop flamethrower and double harpoon, Q again, ulti and go into Overheat and pound em all into the ground xD
     
  3. DLDeadbolt

    DLDeadbolt Space Cadet

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    Please ignore posts on 04-05 May about damage and stacks of Rumbles abilities, I got them confused with Ezrael.


    Rumble is fairly easy to harrass at any time during the game, just remember to stay out of range of his Flamethrower, or try to burst damage him enough that he attempts to run away (flamethrower is Directional DoT, so only works against what is ahead of him)

    PLayed a couple games this weekend both as Rumble and against, and it seems the concensus is to harrass him early and often, as he is quite squishy without a decent spending on survivability.

    Flash is a must-have for him, to get you out those tight spots, and Ghost also works to your favour.

    The shield/ms buff of his W is pretty useless, its down in 1hit/1second.
    His Harpoon, however, is a great help in both ganking and fleeing.

    Getting spell vamp items for him (Will of Ancients, the 1200gold 40AP +spell vamp item + its upgrade) all help in keeeping you alive, but Health/Health Regen/Armor items are a lot better in the long run)
     
  4. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    Whoah, let's not open up the Ezreal can of beans ;)... there's a few posts in this thread detailing my thoughts on Ezreal :p.

    As for Rumble... i've seen more and more of him, and whilst i still don't think he's particularly OP per se, i do think he's rather strong... more so than most other Tanky DPS characters.

    In a teamfight his ability to do damage is still very noticeable (as pointed out before) just because of his persistent flamethrower use.

    His shield, whilst not amazingly strong is much better than Shen's feint, simply because you actually have some AP on him rather than going a full tank. This is further bolstered by any Armor/MR built on him. The speed boost it gives him is rather significant as well, i've had so many Rumble's escape me simply because they Shield, Speed Boost and then slow me to run away and then a few seconds later do it all over again due to his low CDs.

    Currently the Rumble's i've seen generally go:

    Doran's Shield
    Rylai's
    Sunfire Cape
    - More Survivability or AP depending on how the game is going.

    BTW DL, do you have another account? The one i added (or when you friended me) was Level 15 with mostly Coop vs AI games. Was wondering if you had a "PvP Account" ?
     
  5. DLDeadbolt

    DLDeadbolt Space Cadet

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    Aye, thats the account I'm currently playing with on the EU, I've got 2 on the US servers I play now and then, 1 for pvp 1 for AI (AI is in mid/late twenties, PvP is late teens i think
     
  6. b0ng0

    b0ng0 Reddomitlum

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    Any experience with Vayne so far? I just watched the Champion Spotlight and she looks very powerful (and potentially very frustrating to play against).

    Silver bolts and her tumble could be a little OP, her ulti seems quite reasonable though. I love the concept for the character anyway.
     
  7. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    IMO she's OP.

    Not like amazingly so, but definitely a little too strong.

    I think it's the same as old Panth in that Physical Burst champions tend to have hard hitting abilities as well as having a hefty AA. It doesn't help that her W is True % Based damage either.

    Anyhow, at least she's not quite like release day Xin or LeBlanc.
     
  8. mansueto

    mansueto Too broke to mod

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    Could someone recommend a completely random hero that is fun to play? I've gotten bored of kennen, sona, lux, ww, and blitz which are the main people who I play. I don't care what the role is, just looking for someone enjoyable to play. Mayhaps someone that is free this week to try out.
     
  9. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    It depends what you're looking for really since "fun" is what you perceive.

    For example, what is it you find fun?

    - Controlling Teamfights?

    - Doing stupid stuff and getting away with it?

    - High skill thresholds?

    - Nuking the living daylights out of people?

    Personally not a fan of many of this week's free Champions... maybe Caitlyn but i have an on/off relationship with her and MF... can't decide which one i prefer in terms of Ranged Physical Carries.

    For doing stupid stuff and controlling teamfights, i like Singed atm... Ghost + Ult + Poison + Flip, you just go in there, dick about, get a few kills and then run away like a little girl whilst people die trying to follow you because you're low.

    As for nuking people, i actually enjoyed Brand quite a lot during his free week and am currently saving up IP to get him (or Vayne... not yet decided). He's very combo based with 2 out of 3 main skills being skillshots so he's rather "fun" for me. An E->Q->W combo and watching someone melt is always fun to watch, not quite "ZOMG BEAR FROM SKY" amusing, but this is on a much lower CD.
     
  10. mansueto

    mansueto Too broke to mod

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    Mm I'm loving jax. Lots of jumping!
     
  11. b0ng0

    b0ng0 Reddomitlum

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    I love the concept of Jax plus his skins are awesome. AND he weild a lampost! 10/10 for wtfness.
     
  12. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    Jax seems to be coming back in popularity recently despite being slightly UP.

    In fact we got destroyed by one 2 days ago (an arrogant one at that) because the Ashe i was laning with refused to stay out of Leap Strike range.

    He used to be played as a hybrid Carry with a focus on AD (Guinsoo's then stack Bloodthirsters + Phantom Dancer) although now people seem to favour going a more AP Burst Assassin route and leaving his Carry status until lategame (Hextech Revolver, Rylai's, Gunblade).
     
  13. mansueto

    mansueto Too broke to mod

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    I'm building him pure ad / ap. I go dorans, ninja tabi boots, Guinsoo's rageblade, 2x hextech gunblades, atmas impaler, than whatever item I feel I need. I've never completed the build. Been really enjoying him, have tons of spell vamp / life steal with the hextechs and as long as I don't get ganked I can normally win or get out.
     
  14. BentAnat

    BentAnat Software Dev

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    Saw this on CAD today, and had to think of this thread... I haven't played in so long it's shameful, but this does seem to cover the majority of EU players...
    Exceptions make the game cool.
    [​IMG]
     
  15. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    I literally just read that and then browsed here :D.

    I would say it's rather accurate, but only because the last tile states "Ranked" where pressure is always higher than normal... also he's only just started out and i doubt he's hit Level 30 yet (i can't confirm that though).

    I would say that the main offenders are between Level 15 to Level 29 where you've first got a grip on the game and people think that they got enough games under their belt to either boss people around, or think that they know every single aspect.

    At Level 30 i find it's more divided into sections depending on what ELO you come in at:

    <1000 ELO - Generally these people are bad and they know it. Some are jerks because they think they're good but the majority just play for fun despite being terrible. Might be a pain to play with because they don't know what they're doing but overall i don't think their attitude sucks.

    1000-1300 ELO - These are where the majority of the jerks are, they're average players at best however they don't realise it because they generally get matched with themselves alot.

    1400-1800 - These people generally are both competent at the game and are mature enough to get over anything bad that happens. You'll occasionally run into someone at the end end who's an elitist however you soon forget about them the next game over.

    1800+ - Generally these guys are rather competitive, i wouldn't say that they're the rage type douches, however there are some notable exceptions (on the League Forums). They'll shout at you for making mistakes but that's generally because they expect you to be able to pull your weight.

    Anyhow, that's just my personal opinion of how the Level 30 community is made up. ELO figures aren't actually meant to be accurate, just more of an indicator of relative skill level with regards to each other. Also Ranked ELO is a completely different stat since everyone is dumped in at 1200 meaning there are fluctuations with regards to skill and attitude level etc.
     
  16. BentAnat

    BentAnat Software Dev

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    Yeah... Having played with my share of lvl30s, and being somewhere in the group of death (i.e. 10-20 or so- it's been soooo long), I can say that normally it's the mid- to late 20's where the most jackasses hang (at least whn I played last on the EU servers)...
     
  17. b0ng0

    b0ng0 Reddomitlum

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    I'm amazed at how many bad players there are with 500+ games on their accounts. Sure, people sometimes just have bad days but when you've played that many games you'd think they wouldn't make some of the more basic errors...
     
  18. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    Ressurection!

    I'm sad that i'm away atm so i'm not able to try out the new Annie tweaks and Vayne whilst she's on free rotation... although i scheduled it so i'd be back on Friday so i'll still have time :D.

    I'm finding it hilarious that people are now QQ'ing about Annie being OP. I've played quite a lot of games as Annie, in fact she's the one of the "go to" Champions that i have if i feel like crushing someone (the other is Udyr, but that's just if i want to win, not face crush).

    She's typically been the poster girl for Riot in terms of balance however i agree that whilst early game she dominates, her late game revolves around doing consistent DPS and being an AoE stun bot.

    It's hilarious that people think she's now OP when effectively Riot have nerfed her Level 6 damage slightly and increased her scaling (but not to extreme levels). It seems like they buffed her scaling taking into account her old build style (Doran's -> Haunting Guise -> Rabadon's) which effectively meant you only had 200AP (but the Spell Pen balanced it out). With this you're effectively doing the same amount of damage as before, except Tibbers is harder to kill.

    I'm not sure of the current high ELO build, but she now stacks around 300-400AP which in reality, doesn't contribute that much extra damage but it's just a nice addition to her previous late game tapering.

    As people are rightly pointing out on the forum, Annie's always crushed people, especially squishies (in fact, there's noone who i would be worried about in mid as Annie). However she's not really played anymore simply because of the newer more "interactive" casters (Anivia, LeBlanc, Veigar, Brand etc.). The new changes have meant that people have wanted to try her out again and as a result they're seeing what she's always been able to do... melt a squishy in 3 seconds flat by dropping a flaming bear on their head.
     
  19. Edwards

    Edwards Minimodder

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    I don't think people doubted Annie's ability to wreck a squishy with T-bomb previously. Now the issue with Annie is that if she is running with 400 AP her ultimate will aoe stun and deal 730 instant damage (which is fine) and then Tibbers will run around oing 115 magic aoe damage a second. This comes shortly after sunfire cape was nerfed down to 35 magic damage a second because 40 was deemed to be too high.

    Realistically if you wanted to you could probably push Annie's AP around 7/800 ish. I can see many an Annie rocking into a team fight with Tibbers+hourglass, watching as the enemy team literally melts.

    We'll see how this actually plays out, but there is potentially a lot of imbalance with her now.
     
  20. vdbswong

    vdbswong It's a Hedgehod

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    You'd be surprised at how many people are complaining that she wrecks them early game... the one place where her "buff" had the negative effect.

    Also, i think your idea of "realistic" and mine differ greatly... 700-800 is nowhere indicative of an average game IMO and 400 is probably at the top end of what i'd consider average in a game.

    As for Tibbers AoE damage, the 115DPS sounds like quite a bit compared to the Sunfire nerf, however compared to the fact that it did 80DPS before means that it's not too extreme an increase IMO. Sunfire was nerfed because it gave Tank Stats and the damage was a bit on the high side for a Tank (something Tibbers really isn't). With Tibbers you can either focus down Annie (smart option) or even Smite Tibbers which will do significant damage, not as much as before, but still over 40% of its HP.

    I think she definitely snowballs better now, but then compared to how she used to be lategame (tapering off), i wouldn't think she's OP.
     

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