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News Blizzard bans singleplayer cheaters

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  1. impar

    impar Well-Known Member

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    Greetings!
    THIS!

    The article is just wrong.
    Blizzard is not banning for cheating, it is banning for hacking the game.
    Whoever wants to play with large armies, try crazy things, etc already has the built-in cheats and the map editor.
    Those... "players" were banned for hacking the game to get the achievements.

    Perfectly justified.
    However I would just remove all achievements gathered, not ban them.
     
  2. dyzophoria

    dyzophoria Member

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    lol, it makes sense, The achievement points are displayed and ranked online, want to use a trainer? do it on a illegal copy, rather than messing up the ranks.
     
  3. AshT

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    You know how it goes, first some puff then it's crack. Ban them at single player before they take their cheating to multiplayer!!!!

    ;)
     
  4. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    Cheating is just.. Meh.

    I consider myself to be an average player of most games. Except fighting games, I'm very much sub par for those.

    Even I, in all my average-y glory picked up the Kerrigan avatar in SC2. I've not, however, managed to stomach sitting through all those news reports to get the reporters avatar.. Don't know how anyone's managed that.

    As for the legality, a trainer intercepts and modifies active game data. I didn't read SC2's EULA carefully enough to know, but I suspect that trainers are in direct violation of aforementioned EULA.

    They are, legally, quite within their rights to ban away.

    I don't care about cheaters. If they feel the need to cheat to be better than me, then they need to grow up. If they feel the need to cheat to be on par with me, then they need to grow up. Or I need to play less, one or the other.

    <off topic>
    As for the drugs argument.. Don't be a pillock. It's dependant on the person as to how the potential for addiction progresses. I know some very nice habitual users of pot, and would have known (had they not died) some less than nice habitual users of harder drugs, and they (incidentally) started with pot. I even know some, now, ex hard drug users who wouldn't touch pot with a barge pole. Even when they were on coke every day.
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  5. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    I guess this whole thing raises a few questions:

    1. Why do we place so much value in gaming achievements? Why do you care if your neighbor cheated so that he got an extra achievement in his game? Will this actually help him get a better job later in life? Will he get a more attractive girlfriend? How exactly does this affect anyone?

    2. Why are we comparing cheating in a computer game - which really is a pretty insignificant act - to drug use, which causes actual physical and chemical effects on the body? One is a personal health issue, the other is not.
     
  6. Denis_iii

    Denis_iii New Member

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    second dumb move by blizzard this year, impressive! seems this is what happens when you sell out.
     
  7. CharlO

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    I heard they will also ban you if you see porn in the same pc.

    Cheating is for Pussys. Pussys should die so I smile.
     
  8. AshT

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    Get a sense of humour?
     
  9. Tulatin

    Tulatin The Froggy Poster

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    In the context of gaming, I find this idea laughable. I don't mean to insult you, but really? If the only thing a game has to keep people playing it are the achievements, then there is something seriously wrong with that game.

    Do you know why I invested 400 hours in Oblivion, 200 hours in Fallout 3? Not because I was going for silly achievements. It was because I enjoyed myself. I don't go out of my way to keep playing games just to get Achievements. If they're something a little different I'd do along the way, then I'd do it to get them. But in terms of absolutely ridiculous things like Mafia 2's DLC Achievement - drive 1,000 miles? To hell with that.

    I honestly don't understand why gamers should be "Motivated" to continue playing. For what, a meaningless score, e-peen, or something to look on with pride, saying that you kept playing this dreadful piece of crap for weeks after you lost interest, just so you could get the gold merit badge of sperg?

    No thank you.

    I'm personally a fan of games which reward you with achievements for accomplishment, and completion. An achievement for beating the game on it's hardest, or collecting every little widget in the land is fine by me, because it's something I can do on another play through. There, it's not a motivation, it's just something for me to keep in mind, almost a box to check as I go along.

    What I really don't agree with is first forcing achievements onto people with your game, and then banning them when they cheat, and these come about. People have the right to play the game however the hell they like. With whatever modifications they like. I don't think that if you're bad at a game, you should be forced to spend some hours to get good at it before you keep playing. If you want to cheat, and it's in a single player context, you should be free to.

    Besides, since when did gaming become such a serious thing? I thought it was for entertainment, not work.
     
  10. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    ..Excuse me?
     
  11. whamio

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    blizzard n cheaters

    Bravo Bravo...Thanks for leading the way
     
  12. whamio

    whamio New Member

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    Blizzard n cheats

    Bravo:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

    thanks Blizzard for leading the way!:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
     
  13. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    Did anyone else see that reply and immediately think that CK was back? Anyone, brothers?
     
  14. 1-0-1

    1-0-1 Nothing interesting to put here.

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    Well cheating is cheating. Most People that go through the effort in cheating in the single player mode (laughable) will have no problem, if push comes to shove and their e-peen needs some growing, to cheat in multiplayer. And if some of the players do not like the achievement systems why bother cheating to get the achievements ?!

    Maybe I am seeing this wrong, but for me achievements was about the best thing that could have happened to basic gameplaying mechanics (sure some of the them are utterly mundane). I see the achievements as a meta-game which a lot of times helps me further improve my gameplay and are challanging, fun and generally add another nice flair to the game.
     
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  15. Elledan

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    Okay, who truly cares about achievements, and why in the world are there achievements and similar for single player? That's just bizarre.

    It's my game. I can do with it whatever I want as long as I don't inconvenience someone else. Blizzard screwed up by adding online fluff to single player.
     
  16. impar

    impar Well-Known Member

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    Greetings!
    Those who hacked the game to get them cared about them.
    Where have you been the last years? Achievements are part of the gaming experience for quite a few years now, both on SP as in MP.
    Well, if you hack your game to get the achievements you dont seem to care about, you inconvenience me. I dont hack and I care about the achievements.
     
  17. Elledan

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    There should not be achievements for single player games, but maybe that's just the old-fashioned gamer in me talking and I don't get the XBox generation :)

    Stuck playing PC, SNES, N64, Wii and DS games. No achievements there except on a few rare PC games.

    I wish they'd allow one to enable these achievements, having them default to disabled or so. What do I care what strangers think about how well I can (apparently) play a game? :)
     
  18. impar

    impar Well-Known Member

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    Greetings!
    Why no achievements for SP?
    They are optional, you can go hunt them or not.
    Dont know. You tell me... ;)
     
  19. SMIFFYDUDE

    SMIFFYDUDE Supermodders on my D

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    Why does everyone think that all people who use cheats in sp games are doing so for achievements or to get through the game. When i've used them I use them just to mess about, like nailing Combine soldiers to the ceiling with crossbow in HL2 or creating dozens of Nali in Unreal and blowing them all up with the Eightball. And can people stop inventing statistics to suit their arguments.
     
  20. duilaws

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    I agree with robots. Poor rollout strategies.
     
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