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News Blu-ray to allow legal copying

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 15 Jun 2009.

  1. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

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  2. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    Step in the right direction but its still a fail.

    This is due to 1 very big issue:

    you make a backup so it can destroyed by kids etc spills whatever BUT what happens after that since you can only make 1 backup.
    After the first 1 is trashed you have to use the original therefore FAIL.
     
  3. Boogle

    Boogle New Member

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    Glad to see a step in the right direction. But I agree with adam_bagpuss, only 1 backup is a mistake. I think they should have 3 backups, that slowly increase again once every couple of months. So if I backup 3 times in Jan, in Feb I can write another backup.

    Similiar to MS activation which lets you activate again after a certain period of time. I've never had to phone up MS to activate my Vista license, and only had to phone up once with XP.
     
  4. yakyb

    yakyb i hate the person above me

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    backup to img would be fine would allow easier HTPC use also
     
  5. Matticus

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    adam_bagpuss and Boogle. You are somewhat missing the point.

    They are letting you make a backup, making a backup is everyone excuse for wanting to copy a film. If you could make 3 or 5 or 10 backups, then why would your friends or family have to buy the film.

    They would just be setting themselves up for a fail.

    Maybe they should allow 1 digital backup, and 2 hard copies, I can understand what you mean about being able to create a new copy after x amount of months. But then that would mean your computer would have to be rife with DRM software to be able to allow this.

    Also: Blu-ray films are not actually that expensive, and by the middle of next year I imagine ever less expensive. Its not like your kids are smashing a £40 disk.
     
  6. Nicb

    Nicb Let's discuss among ourselves

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    This is good news.
    The way I see it, I burn in my own efficient configured way, but I never have more than one physical copy and one digital copy.
    This takes people like me out of the red and more in the grey............ were almost seeing eye to eye on my rights. :)

    Piracy's bad:p
     
  7. mclean007

    mclean007 Officious Bystander

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    Given a writeable BR costs not far off the cost of a movie, it's not that relevant. If you let your kids use a disc, and they are playing it often enough to trash it taking it in and out of its box etc., then you've just got to accept that it will get damaged. If you're fussed, buy them the DVD instead and rip that. Kids in general aren't going to care about 1080p, next gen video codecs, 7.1 lossless surround sound etc., so save your money, buy them the DVD (rip and give them a copy if you want), and save Blu-Ray for the grown ups.

    Or use AnyDVD HD.
     
  8. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    yeah i guess if you can make 1 digital backup and burn that as many times as you want thats ok.

    people do need to make more than 1 backup as people trash discs all the time. not us techies we take care of our stuff but your average joe/jo is leaving it out on the side in the sun or using it as a coaster.

    problem is if they allow 1 backup to be made does that mean its DRM locked anyway ? or they gunna provide this backup software with the DVD ?
     
  9. Blademrk

    Blademrk Why so serious?

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    Bit of a fail to be honest, Copies must be requested before they can be performed (which is also at a cost), plus there's a hardware restriction too (copied blue ray discs will have a serial number which is recorded and will not play on all hardware, in fact of the current hardware only the PS3 will be upgraded through software to allow playback of copied blue rays).

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  10. Phil Rhodes

    Phil Rhodes Hypernobber

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    When they finally convince me I can actually play blu-ray disks without having to pointlessly re-buy my monitor and graphics card, I'll look into it.

    Until then, the only place I can get HD content is actually bittorrent!
     
  11. Aracos

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    It's a step in the right direction for the industry but I'd still choose an illegal backup instead, DRM is always fail and unless they improve it so that it doesn't try and destroy your computer I will always go around it, even on games I legally own I'll still use a no cd crack.
     
  12. Floyd

    Floyd Wire Twister

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    I copy my DVDs so I can have one original copy at the house and I can take my expendible disks when I travel and such so if I mess up a disk I can just make a new one when I get home.
     
  13. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    anydvd HD fix's any problems i have playing BR disks, (also copying them, as the copied disk would result in no copy protection so it play any way)

    most would not bother copying BR due to the size any way,
     
  14. spt

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    Its not the format that matters, the sad fact still is it is illegal to make any copy (well in the UK anyway) of anything without the consent of the copyright holder. Until the law changes to acknowledge that people want the same media several times in different formats but should only have to pay to buy it once we are stuck with a broken law.

    I know the process is currently being debated by the powers that be in the UK but it is still a long way off changing a law that modern living has deemed unusable.
     
  15. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    Huh well this will be nice for people that are actually wanting to do this for legal reasons, for everyone else thats just doing it because they dont want to buy blu-ray well they will still have AnyDVD HD lol.
     
  16. Faulk_Wulf

    Faulk_Wulf Internet Addict

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    Oh wow! A single copy! I'm silenced with awe! /sarcasm.

    That's like the pathetic "this movie comes with a FREE DIGITAL DOWNLOAD".
    I can't use the digital download on my Life Free Die Hard because I bought it used and someone already took the digital copy.
    And I can't use the copy from I am Legend because I downloaded it to an old computer that died.

    Just let us rip, copy, and burn the media that we PAID for. (Paid, not pirated.) As long as we're not selling for a profit/distributing it in mass quantities-- its our right.

    /continue this very old argument ad naseum.
     
  17. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    LOL you know you can reset the digital key by sending the company an email, I have done it several times.

    As for the whole let us rip our paid for media well as the saying goes it only take a few bad apples to ruin the bunch so because SO many people pirate, they are forced to do such things.
     
  18. mikeuk2004

    mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool!

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    What key is that?? I got Hancock and it came with a DVD with the digital copy to transfer to PC. Are there blu-rays with only keys and download links?

    I bought a Small TV and came with a free DVD player, does that mean I got to give the dvd player witht he TV when I sell it? If you cant download the free digital download because you bought second hand then there you go, thats your reason. I got 1000 microsoft points free when i bought GTA IV, the person that buys my copy second hand aint going to get that benefit.

    You want the free stuff that comes with a product, then buy it new and stop complaining.
     
  19. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    Digital Download or Digital Copy is for PC useage it has no effect on the normal DVD or bly-ray nor does it have any effect on said players, it is simply to be used on a PC or IPOD or the likes.
     
  20. shaffaaf27

    shaffaaf27 The budget builder

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    you people are never happpy!
     
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