Other Brand and Ross suspended by BBC

Discussion in 'General' started by samkiller42, 29 Oct 2008.

  1. Fophillips

    Fophillips What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    9 Oct 2006
    Posts:
    948
    Likes Received:
    1
    Because it was ****ing funny. It was aimed at their audience, it was not aimed at the 18,000 people who complained. If you don’t like it, don’t listen.
     
  2. Angleus

    Angleus What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    28 Nov 2007
    Posts:
    673
    Likes Received:
    3
    Let's do it
     
  3. Major

    Major Guest

    QFFT.
     
  4. VipersGratitude

    VipersGratitude Multimodder

    Joined:
    4 Mar 2008
    Posts:
    3,503
    Likes Received:
    811
    BBC Ethics:
    Publishing multiple articles naming a girl as an Extreme Satanic ****, because she is - OK
    Making a joke about what that fact implies - NOT OK

    If I was scheduled to be interviewed on that show, knowing that I'd probably been researched and my grandaughter was in a burlesque troupe called "Dont bring a condom, just a wooden spoon to stir the porridge" I'd probably expect some banter.
     
  5. D3s3rt_F0x

    D3s3rt_F0x What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    28 Oct 2004
    Posts:
    719
    Likes Received:
    6
    Lets face it this story is just a mouth piece for attention seeking idiots. Out of all the people who listen to the show 2 complained after 5 days......5 days. The when the papers get hold of it you get people who'd never listen complaining...I just dont get it, if you like him listen to him if you dont, then dont pay any attention, pretty simple really. Personally I thought it was funny ill judged but funny.

    You get the people who simply no one cares about talking about it, the papers make it there front page every day like theres nothing more important going on in the world like I dont know...the financial crisis? the war in the congo? nope the Ross and Brand are far more important. I mean look at Sky news I just had it on there saying hopefully the papers will find something new to pick on, when Sky news has it on as there main headline every 15 mintues and I really couldnt care. Then you have the Daily Mail battling for the decency of britain...this is the same paper that hates you if your not white, straight and christian, I mean look at Little John in todays paper beginning with...'Even if the BBC attempts to rehabilitate Jonathon Ross by forcing him to present Songs of Praise, accompanied by Four Happily Married Men and a Piano its too late.'

    That sums up the Daily Mail for me he has a go at homosexuals, whats wrong with putting 4 gay men playing a piano? Then tells him to go christian. Plus lets not forget that later in the same article Little John says the BBC should be disbanded but last time i checked he had a show on Sky news as well, so well done on putting his own agenda forward.

    The other big thing about this story was for me on the day rebels attacked the Democratic Republic of Congo did the PM even discuss it? Nope, did he discuss Ross and Brand? You bet your bottom dollar he did and if a clown like that is running the country I dont even want to know.
     
  6. will.

    will. A motorbike of jealousy!

    Joined:
    2 Mar 2005
    Posts:
    4,461
    Likes Received:
    20
    Become a bit silly this now hasn't it...

    I thought it was funny.
     
  7. koola

    koola Minimodder

    Joined:
    11 Jul 2004
    Posts:
    2,401
    Likes Received:
    10
    Another classic example to devolution and about time that overpaid idiot Ross got put in his place with his cheap humor.
     
  8. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

    Joined:
    23 Oct 2001
    Posts:
    34,540
    Likes Received:
    1,932
    Oh, boo-hoo. :waah:

    What does Ross do that justifies him earning £6 million a year. I mean, really? Is it his sophisticated sense of humour? His entertaining personality? His engaging manner? Obviously not. People complain about irrational religious worship, but get spasms of apoplexy at the thought of Jonatan Ross not being on TV for three months (oh, noes!). At least religion contributes something to people's lives. Ross could die tomorrow and he would not be missed. Even you would just change the channel less than five minutes after starting an emo thread in General Discussion ("RIP Ross. What a tragic loss to Friday night entertainment. Now what's on C4?").

    You think people lost perspective? You could do with getting some.

    It was obviously also aimed at Andrew Sachs. And it was not funny. It was shamefully pathetic. It was humour of the most facile, puerile degree. It was the equivalent of mooning a home for the elderly to shock a few grannies.

    QFT.
     
  9. Major

    Major Guest

    Seems to be an age gap and a an understanding of what a joke is on this subject.

    There are jokes on different levels, and some people (including you) cannot take jokes like these, which is a shame because I thought you had a decent brain?

    Maybe you just don't like Ross, I don't know. Kinda like my Dad who dislikes Ross, and because all this **** has come up the past few days, all he shouts is "sack him" and "he is junk". But when asked about what Ross said on the Radio, he doesn't reply, because he is ignorant on the matter.

    If you don't like the joke, then don't listen to it, and now they are bringing up The Queen joke from last night, and IMO, was one of the best jokes I've heard in a while, I did LOL during my weights session when I heard it.

    You didn't think the Ross joke was funny, but I bet I can find 5 million people in the UK who DID think it was funny. It's "funny" how opinions are divided on this matter, but a joke is to laugh at, not to debate about.
     
  10. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

    Joined:
    23 Oct 2001
    Posts:
    34,540
    Likes Received:
    1,932
    For jokes like these, do you need one?

    I don't like how much he's paid to be a **** and I don't like the hero worship of his ****ishness.

    Let's do a little empathy exercise here: how would you feel, as granddad, if someone called you and said: "I f***** your granddaughter!... I had sex with your granddaughter. But it was consensual and she wasn't menstrual, it was consensual lovely sex"? How would you feel if that was being broadcast on national radio? Would you still think it is funny?

    I don't think you'd be laughing; I think you'd feel offended. I think you wouldn't like you or your granddaughter being taken the piss out of.
     
  11. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

    Joined:
    20 Nov 2005
    Posts:
    12,433
    Likes Received:
    1,649
    I tried that argument with him earlier in the thread. No good. Apparently it'd be funny because "as a comedian" he'd "Understand" and move on.

    I find it hard to believe that, but hey. Intarbutz; you can pretend to be anything you want.
     
  12. julianmartin

    julianmartin resident cyborg.

    Joined:
    25 Jul 2004
    Posts:
    3,561
    Likes Received:
    126
    Coming from you, that does make me wonder whether there is something wrong with me, considering your comments are normally a bit more rational. Thanks!

    I was merely (sarcastically, and most importantly, jestingly, as the original poster poignantly realised) highlighting a slight grammatical boo boo, no need to jump on the "he's a sinner!" daily mail bandwagon...

    On another (more serious as clearly humour isn't allowed in this thread:rolleyes:)I do wonder whether all the complaints are because people hate russell brand and they want to see him done over...
     
  13. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

    Joined:
    20 Nov 2005
    Posts:
    12,433
    Likes Received:
    1,649
    Lack of humour?

    This thread?

    Studies have proven that people give 60% too much of a ****!
     
  14. Major

    Major Guest

    If I used to be a very famous person, if I had a granddaughter who ****ed Brand, and if I have a sense of humor which people seem to lack, yes, I would find it very funny indeed. (and without the first parts, I STILL find it funny).

    How about an example for you, the other month, my family were having a meal, my little brother did an action which was exactly the same as the BJ action. Most of us laughed, he is too young to understand, but we extended the joke into "I bet you like" etc. It's quite a "hard" joke, but we all have a sense of humor minus my Dad for example in these circumstances. My bet is that your family wouldn't even think about doing something like that, because that's just how you are.

    What you have to understand, is that there is a separation, look at it this way.

    1% of the UK don't find the joke funny
    99% of the UK find the joke funny
    99% of the UK now have to suffer because of the 1% of people lacking humor
    1% still think they are right because they don't have the "humor" part of their brain turned on.
    Because of this, they will always find the joke offensive, and they find it impossible to laugh at it.

    Kinda like how a cannibal likes eating human flesh, us "non cannibals" will never understand why.

    And considering you're job, SURELY you know everyone is different? That's why I find it hard to understand you're stance in this thread.
     
  15. mikeuk2004

    mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool!

    Joined:
    3 Sep 2004
    Posts:
    3,293
    Likes Received:
    11
    I dont get why this was picked up and blown up like this. There has been far worse and distasteful jokes broadcast in the past and not a peep.

    I do not find brand funny and because of that I dont watch or listen to anything he does. However there are people who do find him funny and this joke is what i expect from him. I dont get the complaints and as previously mentioned, there where only 3 complaints when it was broadcast. The other 30k complaints came after people read about it and I bet not one of them has even heard what was broadcast in context.

    Still 30k complaints means nothing when there are over 60 million people in this country. I dont agree with any of them getting sacked because of the very small minority. If 30k people have that power out of 60 million, its quite scary.

    I still cant beleive its still on the news today, this brand and ross crap is pointles and a waste of time, show me more whats going on in the world instead pease as there are more important events going on like the women and children dying in the Conga.
     
  16. Major

    Major Guest

    Don't think it could be worded more perfectly, WD. :)
     
  17. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

    Joined:
    23 Oct 2001
    Posts:
    34,540
    Likes Received:
    1,932
    No, granddad. You wouldn't expect a guy to brag to you about ****ing your granddaughter (whether he did or not). You'd find it disrespectful.

    Let's make this a more fitting analogy. You're in a public restaurant. Someone leans over from the next table and without provocation says loudly to your little brother: "I bet you like..." etc. Everybody in the restaurant laughs.

    Still funny?

    Sure everyone is different. But we still have general standards of propriety. Just because the Daily Mail readers are overreacting again does not mean they basically haven't got a point.
     
  18. LeMaltor

    LeMaltor >^_^

    Joined:
    3 Oct 2003
    Posts:
    2,102
    Likes Received:
    25
    The problem with that is licence fee payers are paying for it, audience or not, and thus (feel) they have a right to complain about any content the BBC puts out.
     
  19. Major

    Major Guest

    How is that even an analogy? :blah:

    I won't argue anyone, because everyone has different opinions, every time someone is born, so is another opinion. If you go 20 years back or even 10 years back, gay men were considered scum, now, they are respected for being gay, and seeing two blokes kiss on TV is now normal.

    See how things change by time?

    I found it very funny, you don't, that's it, we are different people. :)
     
  20. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

    Joined:
    23 Oct 2001
    Posts:
    34,540
    Likes Received:
    1,932
    If you don't get it, I can see why you don't see anything wrong with what Ross and Brand did.

    :sigh: This is not about social norms. This is about boundaries.

    Nobody is hurt or ridiculed in a mutually consenting adult sexual relationship, homosexual or otherwise. But people would object to being phoned to hear the caller say "I've ****ed your granddaughter" or "We can find out where you live, kick your front door in and scream apologies into your bottom... We can just keep on troubling you". That's intrusive, and a transgression of boundaries.

    If a bunch of teenage chavs made a prank call like that to an elderly person (let's say, your gran), people would rightly be shocked. The police might even get involved. But because the perpetrators are popular media figures and famous "comedians", it is supposedly "edgy" post-modernist humour, and it's funny and acceptable.
     
    Last edited: 1 Nov 2008

Share This Page