British teenager arrested for possessing the "Anarchists' Cookbook"

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  1. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg What's a Dremel?

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    But then that's more a function of an aggressive government than an aggressive terrorist organisation. There were more attacks in a month during the "troubles" than the total since our war on terror began.
     
  2. Poisonous

    Poisonous Incestuious

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    ISBN: 0-87364-830-7

    Every home shouldn't be without one.
     
  3. Bungle

    Bungle Rainbow Warrior

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    /begins working on a best seller called "bomb making for dummies". Free visit by your local anti-terrorist unit with every copy.:duh:
     
  4. culley

    culley What's a Dremel?

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    I'm currently reading a book by Chris Atkins called Taking Liberties, which is about the labour government and what has gone wrong since they have come into office.

    You think this is bad, some of the stuff in the book makes you want to, well I don't know but it makes you very angry. Under the new SOCPA (Serious Organised Crime & Police Act) people can get arrested for protesting about **** (The War On Terror) and how they don't agree with it, Our government are arresting people who merely care about the state of our country, rather than the people who want to blow it up.

    Seriouly this book will open your mind! You need to read it.
     
  5. yodasarmpit

    yodasarmpit Modder

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    I always thought they had to prove intent, sadly it looks like I was wrong :(

    Thought crime o_O
     
  6. ufk

    ufk Licenced Fool

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    15-20 years ago, the anarchists cookbook was not as readily available as it is now
    15-20 yrs ago the Irish Republican Army was quite happy blowing up hotels and shopping centres etc; on a regular basis

    Yes the Uk is possibly a more dangerous place than it was then, but thats more to do with teh gangs of feral youths roaming the streets and the police forces being too tied up with red tape and political correctness than they were then, hell i can remember being clipped round the ear by the police for scrumping apples as a kid, that doesn't happen anymore, its aminor crime that goes unnoticed
     
  7. capnPedro

    capnPedro Hacker. Maker. Engineer.

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    :/ I have 2 copies...

    Although I wouldn't actually recommend the book to anyone, Jolly Roger's facts are a little off in places and some of the stuff could get you killed/blow your fingers off.

    If you want to know about explosives, go learn some chemistry (oxidizer + fuel + initiator = win).
    If you want to know about guerrilla warfare, read about the Vietcong.
    Then read some Sun Tzu.

    Skip the 'Cookbook.
     
  8. failsaif1924

    failsaif1924 What's a Dremel?

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    its also sad how this young man is charged according to the anti-terrorism laws due to him being a muslim, just a few weeks back we saw Miles Cooper (letter bomb attacks) all over the media, police said that his home was "basically a bomb factory"

    any mention of terrorism at all? nope ...
     
  9. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    Rubbish. See my sig.
    What part of that don't you understand? There has to be intent, and given the intent, it doesn't matter that thousands of other people possess the same information.
     
  10. ElThomsono

    ElThomsono Multimodder

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    I found the relevant section (I think):

    Stemmed from here.

    I have been misinformed, if I have understood the document correctly you can legally own the book, but there is no legal way to acquire it.
     
  11. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    That's subsection (2), subsection (1) has the important words;

    I've not read all the way through the Cookbook, but the author can use the gun-dealer's argument - he is not promoting illegal use of the item.
     
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  12. ElThomsono

    ElThomsono Multimodder

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    I think we're finally at the bottom of this; you're right, intent must be established for the document to be held illegally.
     
  13. Hells_Bliss

    Hells_Bliss What's a Dremel?

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    I'm asking you if the UK, in a terrorism sense, is more dangerous now then it was during the Troubles. I don't really think it has, more like there's been a period of relative peace and now people are reactive again.
    Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles#Casualties:_brief_summary

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_7_July_2005_London_bombings

    You're right, 15-20 years ago a kid wouldn't have been arrested for owning a copy of the anarchists cookbook, unless he was in any way associated with the IRA et al.
     
  14. DXR_13KE

    DXR_13KE BananaModder

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    so.... how did they know he intended to blow something up?

    common sense will be banned any day soon.... a simple gasoline + bottle + duct tape + lamb bulb + battery + wires + analog clock will make a nice incendiary/explosive device.....
     
  15. Bungle

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    "The only books that influence us are those for which we are ready, and which have gone a little farther down our particular path than we have yet got ourselves."

    Author: E.M. Forster
     
  16. Tulatin

    Tulatin The Froggy Poster

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    "Terrorism Act 2000"

    So i see you gents have a "let's put a fascist party in power" act too eh?
     
  17. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

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    wow that really sucks
     
  18. ChromeX

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    Well... yeah he's white he cant be a terrorist /sarc You make a good point there failsaif!
     
  19. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    Can a lone nutter, a political group of 1 member, be a terrorist in the commonly-accepted sense? It's a thin line but had the police charged him as a terrorist no doubt the media would have accused them of politically-motivated scare tactics.

    A somewhat fuller story in the local rag
    Oh, and another one;
     
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  20. chrisb2e9

    chrisb2e9 Dont do that...

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    I had forgotten that book was even still around. So should I be arrested and charged because i've looked at it in the past? I mean, I know how to make lots of stuff that goes bang. I also have a pilots licence and access to a plane that I can drop the bombs from.
    But that doesn't mean that I am going to do so.
    Stupid world. maybe I should just go and be a monk somewhere.
     

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