Building a new PC

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by BenJa, 26 Jun 2003.

  1. BenJa

    BenJa What's a Dremel?

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    Well the short and the tall of it is I recently spent £200 on a radeon 9700 pro. Now I see this was somewhat of a mistake... but then again I'm not quite sure what I was thinking when I bought it for my antiquated PC (900Mhz AMD, asus A7V, 512 RAM). :wallbash: :sigh:

    As you can probably tell the radeon was none too pleased with my earlier choice of PC... So here I am sitting infront of my 866 Duron with a Gigabyte motherboard - which I dare not speak the name of in public - and my radeon happily chugging away... so as you might have only presumed up to this point.

    Yes. I am fed up and I want out. So what to buy? Unfortunatly I am not the richest for soles, but I have time... lots of time to spare, so I think to myself. What would be the best components to overclock...

    Yet again I hit a snag, I don't know anything about overclocking! But I have time, I have a brain, and I have the Internet. So my ingenious friend Kameleon - after brief interrogation - informs me of this website, full of people who know how to do the dirty deed...

    So this is me - a mere pawn in the greater scale of things - asking you, how would I accomlish this?

    Lets say I'm thinking of an AMD 2400-2600, an Abit nf7s motherboard, and maybe 256 - 512 RAM as the basis for this PC.

    Now I'm very open to alternative suggestions on components, thou if you mention intel at anypoint, I may be forced to erase my memory of you, and ignore all subsiquent messages you send.

    I know nothing about fans (for overclocking purposes), I know little about water cooling, and I know nothing about unlocking a CPU (apart from the fact that it's called unlocking a CPU).

    So what do you, the greater intelligence on overclocking think?
     
  2. BenJa

    BenJa What's a Dremel?

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    I'm presuming most of you won't want to read all that noncence so in short:

    Thinking of getting: 2400-2600 AMD, Abit nf7s, 512Mb of DDR RAM as the basis of a PC. (Kamaleon has implyed that a case is rather important as well, for the art of overclocking)

    I'm looking for reccomendations on overclocking this or/and suggestions on other components.

    All help will be greatly appeciated. :D
     
  3. Kameleon

    Kameleon is watching you...

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    I refuse to take any blame for this :p
     
  4. BenJa

    BenJa What's a Dremel?

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    O NO! I've been discovered! *hides*

    Even thought I have built many PC's I don't know anything about them ::he adds quickly, before Kameleon gives anyone any ideas abouts my compitance in this regard::
     
  5. Behemoth

    Behemoth Timelord in training

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    Well your going to need to get some half decent RAM if your going for an Nforce 2 mobo. I don't know exactly how fussy those boards are as you might be able to get away with some generic stuff, but avoid it of you can. My KD7 Raid ran rather happily with some generic PC 2100 DDR on it till I got myself 2 sticks of 256 DDR 400 (PC 3200m King max) memory. Quality stuff.

    Case, well your spoilt for choice, best thing to do is look around and see whats available. Chiefttec Dragon's are very nice, I got mine only the other day. Comes with a fan on the side panel, but you way want to change to something a little more meaty than the one that comes with it, I've disconnected mine for a while, and the connected it back up again, there really is no difference with it on or off.

    If you have a little more money burning a hole in your pocket then maybe look at something from Lian Li or Coolermaster.
     
  6. BenJa

    BenJa What's a Dremel?

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    Thanks for the input I shall now go on a quest for computer cases and try and find out the performance differance between 2100 and 3200 (as in benchmark).

    Btw I am slowly reading through all the topics to see if I can get some sence of how to overclock an AMD 900, then if I get confident that I won't burn a whole through my old A7V... I shall apply this new found knowledge into destroying the Abit (unless someone has a better idea for a more suitable motherboard).

    All tips are appeciated! Thank you again.

    :D
     
  7. Behemoth

    Behemoth Timelord in training

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    Don't mention it, we all had to start somewhere. BTW don't rule out PC 2700 (333 MHz DDR) a little bit cheaper than the 3200.

    Names to look out for, Corsair, Crucial, Twin Mossm King Max, Samsung. Any of those brands are decent, just avoid cheap generic DDR if possible.

    As for your Asus A7V, I had one of those boards, they are still great boards, flash your bios mate and it can take upto an XP 1800/1900 Palomino Core CPU, oh no wait thats the A7V133 so yeah you can only go upto 1.4 GHx on that board as it only supports 200 FSB CPU's where as theA7V133 was 200/266 FSB.
     
  8. BenJa

    BenJa What's a Dremel?

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    Ah so this old thing still has potential uses? Well I'll try not to damage it too much through my learning. :)
     
  9. Behemoth

    Behemoth Timelord in training

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    BenJa What's a Dremel?

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    Well I have earmarked the Chieftech dragon (black case)

    I have a 550W power supply which I bought because my last power supply was prematurely ended by my radeon :)

    but thank you for the forum anyhow I'm still learning :)

    Edit: omg that is a most excellent post all credit to IsaacSibson and Will (if they are different people) and Thankyou again for sending it my way)

    Btw my typing will gradually get more and more crappy, as the night goes on. :)
     
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  11. olv

    olv he's so bright

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    Good choice on motherboard, make sure it is the v2.0. Get TwinMOS PC3200 ram with Winbond chips, performs as well as corsair. And get an XP1700+ JUIHB stepping i *think* and u could overclock it past 2.3ghz. u can get them from cpucity.co.uk
     
  12. BenJa

    BenJa What's a Dremel?

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    ouch how much would I have to spend on a fan to get it to 2.3? :jawdrop:

    What's so special about JUIHB stepping? (what is it :) )

    Edit: well I'll think seriously about getting a JUIHB 1700 processor now I've read up on it thank you for that post. :D
     
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