Build Advice Building my first NEW PC

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Bituser, 13 Aug 2011.

  1. fdbh96

    fdbh96 What's a Dremel?

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    I would change the psu to a corsair hx650 (750w is a bit unnecessary).

    Also if you can get samsung spinpoint f3 drives they are just as good for cheaper (in uk)

    Is there a reason you picked the antec 900 case as it is a bit outdated and would be better off with something like a fractal design r3 or one of the coolermaster haf cases.
     
  2. Bituser

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    Can anyone else confirm this? I just want to double check, thanks fdh96 ;).
     
  3. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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  4. Bituser

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  5. thelaw

    thelaw What's a Dremel?

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    Kia ora, first cheers for the pbtech tip - i was not sure where i was going to get my pc parts when i move back home next month.

    Firstly your set up is pretty good, 650w will be fine for that set up, more than enough for what you have got planned...unless you want to stick in a another graphics card and sli/crossfire

    mobo wise have a look at the asus p8p67 range as well similar prices but a very good reliable brand that is brilliant for overclocking that cpu.

    As for the memory you still have triple kit listed as your first option? Someone already pointed out you cannot have a triple kit in a dual kit motherboard board meaning you can either have 2x or 4x memory sticks but not 3x...if you want 3x you need to change your motherboard to one that states "triple channel" rather than dual channel and 8gb is more than enough for today's requirements, i still cannot use all of my 8gb as it is..and you will be replacing your entire pc before you ever need to go higher than 8gb. If you get a 2x4gb kit that will give you 8gb and if you did need to go higher in say 3/4 years time then you can just op for another 2x4gb kit and have 16gb..

    As for the monitor, its obviously blowing your budget apart so personally i would go with your first choice, everyone gets on the IPS bandwagon to be honest here in the UK because the price on them has come down but that is not the case back home yet other than for people who are photo editors for there professions - simply because there isn't the market there for it yet and obviously we pay the high price in exporting costs in NZ which they dont tend too over here, if your going from editing with the Toshiba Satellite l300 then your first monitor choice will still be a bloody good improvement on your current set up....IPS is nice, yes it offers more colours etc etc but its a luxury choice like a ssd, but if you are able to stretch your budget then of course go for it...its a nice to have but not a necessary given what you currently edit on anyhow so if you want to stick with your budget then go for your first monitor choice.

    However its worth trying something, ringing them up with the entire order asking the price first minus the monitor and ask them about the two monitors and then ask if they will do the dell for the same price as the LG, obviously they will hum and harrr and likely so no, then tell them well "ok i really want the dell but cannot go that far with my budget, so i will ring around a few other places (quote names like elive, computer lounge and other companies) and see if they can do the build with the dell for $219." For the sake of losing out on the entire order for $100 i would suspect they may buckle.

    As for the memory and on that subject corsair is a preferred choice in the UK but its cheaper once again because there is a larger market for corsair here in the UK and europe and i know that in New Zealand corsair is more expensive as oppose to Kingston because Kingston is the preferred memory choice back home which is still bloody good ram to be honest and with the kingston brand its $30-$40 cheaper for the same 8gb kit than if you went for corsair instead.

    http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=839815

    Overall good set up, just sort your memory choice out...and have a good think about the monitor, if you can get down to somewhere that has them both in stock its worth having a look at both monitors plugged in, you will notice a difference with the IPS but you may find that your current choice will suit your needs and obviously your budget.

    Also what are you doing about a dedicated cpu cooler given the fact you are buying the i2500k as oppose to the locked i2500 i take it you want to overclock it then, if so you will be restricted using the stock cpu fan that intel give you.

    I would suggest on a budget build the arctic cooling freezer 7 pro which you can get for $50
    http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=42741
     
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  6. TheLegendJoe

    TheLegendJoe Syntax error

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    It may be unecessary now, but when you upgrade (put another GPU in maybe) it could make the difference. This coming from a guy with a 850W psu when a 500watt one would probably do... :p But Imo buy the best you can afford ;)
     
  7. Bituser

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    Kia ora thelaw!

    You may not have seen my previous post, but I thought I would get BOTH of these:
    http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z...ton-DDR3-1600MHz-12GB-HyperX-Kit-(3x4GB)-CL9-
    http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z...ton-OEM-DDR3-1600Mhz-4GB-GAMING-PERFORMANCE--

    Would that not be a very good option?

    As for Pricespy, you have to be really careful with some of the stores which are on there. I tend to stick with either PBtech or Notebook city. That's where I buy all of my PC parts (and Trade me :p). I noticed the second 4gb stick says OEM, will I still be able to buy it?

    I see in your signature there that you also have an i5 2500k, they appear to be quite popular. I'll see how much I can knock off the price by using a 650W PSU. However, in the future I may upgrade the CPU, add another GPU and another HDD. I want to leave room for upgrades so It will save money in the long run :).

    I would really like to get an IPS display, but I might end up going for an ordinary screen as you say, I'll see how it goes.
     
  8. Bituser

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    Looks like you beat me to the posting! That's what I have been considering. If it is really worth it I am prepared to spend the $2200.
     
  9. thelaw

    thelaw What's a Dremel?

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    Yeah the i2500k/i2600k is the best cpu you can get as a all rounder, its popular because nothing (aside from the more extreme cpu's which you would pay some $1200 just for the cpu) can beat it currently.

    If your going to go for 16gb or 4x4gb sticks you will be fine but as i stated i think its overkill for your requirements...i was editing my post as you replied so its worth reading it again because i also mentioned you have not factored in a cpu cooler which is vital really if you want to over clock.

    You can buy oem stuff its just without the fancy packing so the memory will likely come in plain plastic wallets and usually warranties have less time on oem stuff than retail.

    Where are you based by the way?
     
  10. Bituser

    Bituser 64 Gigglebytes

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    To start with I won't be overclocking the CPU so when I do overclock it I will buy a new cooler.

    As for the RAM, I will be doing heavy video editing and Photoshop and I have heard that It really uses a lot of memory. If I can get by on 8gb I certainly will because it will save a bit of money.

    I'm based in the North Island, that is as far as I will narrow it down publicly :).

    I like your idea with the putting pressure on them to give me a deal. I was previously considering asking them to give me $300 off the whole order take it or leave it, but your idea sounds like a solid plan. I will have to give it a shot. If they say no I can work from there.
     
  11. Bituser

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    Does anyone think UEFI is necessary? I heard it decreases boot times.
     
  12. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    I'm sorry, but it's not. I do a great deal of HD video editing and I can assure you that 12 or 16GB is something very desirable. For Photoshop work, then you can get by with 8, but he's doing video editing too, and with 8GB and 1080p it will constantly on the scratch disk. I'd say go with as much RAM as you can possibly cram in there.


    How often do you boot?
     
  13. Elton

    Elton Officially a Whisky Nerd

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    Having thrown another 8GB (whim purchase, lowered my timings to 1333, but I'll survive) I can tell you that the difference between 4GB and 8GB are huge. 8GB to 12-16GB however might be a bit less tangible, but it's still quite alot of RAM. And for larger editing, quite necessary.
     
  14. Bituser

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    I boot about 5 times a day.
     
  15. Bede

    Bede Minimodder

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    One thing about the IPS panel - you will probably upgrade some aspects of your computer in the next 3-4 years, but you will not have to upgrade a good screen until it breaks. It's a long term investment, like decent speakers.
     
  16. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    Exactly. My last monitor lasted me 6 years, and it's still going strong and being used by my wife. My speakers are 9 years old, and I'm only now thinking of changing them. In contrast, this computer is the longest I've ever gone without upgrading and a paltry 2.5 years.


    Invest as much as you can in the peripheral components, as that's what you interface with day in, day out.
     

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