Nail, meet head. And neither should it.. because it (a civil wedding) *isn't* a religious ceremony. In the same way you feel that it's not a proper wedding unless it includes god in it, conversely I feel that having to include god in my wedding is pointless and grossly inappropriate. Anyway, my rants aside and getting back on topic. Gays should have the right to have a civil wedding should they choose. No-one (hopefully) is arguing that religious ceremonys are inappropriate for gay people. It is written into nearly every religions scriptures that homosexuality is 'immoral' and there's no way they're going to let that change. However whilst clearly it *is* against their religion, marriage is now *no longer* reserved for those who are religious and gay people should have the right to have a civil wedding which is nothing to do with god, George Bush or as raised above, the pope. I'm going to Hell (apparently) along with gay people and all the other sinners, and yet religious heads of state have been allowing civil weddings for years. I had no religious undercurrent to my wedding, yet no-one has moved to ban civil weddings between heterosexual couples.. what makes gay people so different? We're both sinners, so why should we not get the same *restrictions* of our rights?