Graphics But I can't decide on graphics card?

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  1. WikDK

    WikDK What's a Dremel?

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    Hi

    I'm thinking of buying this system (its premade and tested, so config is limited) for gaming. I want a hardcore gaming system about this price level.

    But I cant decide on graphics card. I have these 4 to choose from. Heat, noise and power is a concern. But then again I want a powerful card.

    AMD HD6870 1GB
    ATI HD5870 1GB
    Nvidia GTX460 1GB
    nVidia GTX480 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-E

    On of those 4 for this system. Any advice? :)


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    Gigabyte X58A motherboard

    Core i7-950 4x3.06GHz 4,8GT/s

    Scythe CPU-cooler

    Seasonic S12D 750W RealWatt supersilent (80+ silver certified)

    Kingston HyperX 12 GB DDR3-1600 TriChannel

    Western Digital 1TB SATA3 6Gb/s 64MB
    cache Black Edition

    Intel X25-M 80GB SSD harddrive

    TFT Iiyama E2472HDD 24'' LED 2ms 1920x1080 FullHD

    Sony 24x DVD-burn

    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

    Logitech® G500 Optical Laser Gaming Mouse

    Dual 100/1000 Mb/s Realtek 8111 Gigabit LAN
     
  2. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    Why are you buying pre-built? Because your being ripped off.

    1) 12GB RAM for a gaming system is a waste of money.

    2) SATA3 mechanical drive is a waste of money.

    3) Windows 7 Ultimate is a waste of money.

    Get my drift?
     
  3. WikDK

    WikDK What's a Dremel?

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    I have the option of

    Downgrading

    WD 1TB SATA3 -> WD Greenpower 2TB SATA2 harddisk

    Removing Win 7 of choosing Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

    But the ram is solid, I cant change that.
     
  4. murraynt

    murraynt Modder

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    I agree with Pha4Zed.
    May i ask how much you are paying for this?
    I would be looking at the high end like the 480, 5970 Etc, although the 580 and the rest of the 6xxx series will be arriving very shortally.
    Welcom to Bit-tech man :D
     
  5. Pete J

    Pete J Employed scum

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    ^^ The men speaketh the truth.
     
  6. WikDK

    WikDK What's a Dremel?

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    The above system is around 1500 British pounds, then I need to add the graphics card.
     
  7. 13eightyfour

    13eightyfour Formerly Titanium Angel

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    ^^This

    Ive shown my grandparents how to build a comp and they could quite happily construct a computer from parts and get the OS running perfectly. They probably wouldnt be able to select the components without help but thats not really an issue.

    Building a computer is something i think everybody should at least have a go at, theres very little that can actually go wrong, itll more than likely be quicker than waiting for a prebuilt, and if you're not 100% confident you could always get your parts from scan and opt for their scansure service which covers any user cockups during the build.

    If of course you intent on getting shafted a prebuilt, and all you want is the fastest GPU from those listed then that would be the 480, but that comes at the expense of heat/power usage and more than likely a much higher cost than the others.

    EDIT:
    :jawdrop:
     
  8. smc8788

    smc8788 Multimodder

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    Where are you buying it from? I would suggest looking at other custom build retailers, I've seen much better configured systems elsewhere. Out of that list though I would get the 5870 since it's the best compromise between power, heat, and energy consumption.
     
  9. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    Thats a ripoff mate. Let me see if I can spec one up from Scan. You obviously want a high specification system so I'll base it on that.

    CPU: i7 950 (£228)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R (£144)
    RAM: Corsair 6GB 1600MHz (£93)
    PSU: Corsair 850HX Modular (£129)
    Case: Silverstone Raven R2 (£141)
    GPU: 2x EVGA 460 GTX Cheesecake (£342)
    HDDs: Intel 80GB X-25M + 2x Samsung F3 1TBs (£213)
    OS: Windows 7 Home Premium (£111)

    Thats £1401. The system specced would destroy virtually any game at any setting.
     
  10. Picky88

    Picky88 What's a Dremel?

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    Now is not a good time to buy a graphics card, as said by a few people there are going to be a few new cards out soon from amd and nvidia, and even if you dont want one of the new ones, the previous ones will fall in price when the new ones come out.

    Also agree that 12GB is overkill, most of it will not be doing anything.

    For storage I would go for a crucial C300 SSD, and then a cheap hard drive for storage. A fast hard drive is not going to compare to an SSD! Then install windows and games on the SSD, and store data on the HDD.

    Have a look on the microsoft website to see what you actually get in windows 7 ulitmate, I would have thought windows 7 professional would be sufficient.

    Hope my opinion is useful!
     
  11. woody_294

    woody_294 Wizard Ninja :P

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    1.21 gigawatts, 12GB

    Both enormous amounts or electricity/RAM, but Doc Brown really did need his.

    You do not :D
     
  12. Ripitup121

    Ripitup121 MMMMMMm watercooling....

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    Have to agree with this spec up, dont forget an aftermarket cooler for the cpu do, not 100% nessissary as you get a stock intel one but they suck badgers ass so a titan ferrir or something would be another 30-40 squids.

    Rip:thumb:
     
  13. 13eightyfour

    13eightyfour Formerly Titanium Angel

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    Scan currently have a today only (Weekend) deal on the 950&UD3R at £352.49 Granted its not a massive saving but its a saving nevertheless. :thumb:
     
  14. WikDK

    WikDK What's a Dremel?

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    Thanks for all your comments. Maybe I should order the parts and make it myself. I can order these parts for about 1800 pounds (about my budget)

    Is this config better, than the first one (I have tried to follow the guide here on the page)

    Do you see anything I need?


    Intel Core™ i7 Quad Processor i7-950
    - Quad Core, 3,06Ghz, Socket 1366, 8MB, 130W, Boxed w/fan

    ASUS P6X58D-E, Socket-1366
    - ATX, X58, DDR3, 3xPCIe(2.0)x16, GbLAN, FireWire, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.0

    Corsair Dominator DHX+ DDR3 1600MHz 6GB
    - Kit w/3x 2GB XMS3 DHX+, CL8-8-8-24, for Core i7, Connector, 1.65v

    ZOTAC GeForce GTX 480 1536MB AMP! ®
    - PCI-Express 2.0, GDDR5, 2xDVI, native-mini HDMI, w/Razer DeathAdder

    Seasonic M12D Powersupply 750W
    - Modulære Kabler, 80Plus Silver, 120mm fan, DC-DC , 4x PCI-E (6+2), 11x SATA

    Silverstone Fortress II Midi Tower Sort
    - Blæsere: 3x 180mm Bund, 1x 120mm Top, Aluminium, Vindue, Rød Interior

    Plextor DVD±RW burner PX-880SA
    - 24x8x16 DVD±RW, SATA

    Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB
    - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0 Gbps, 3,5", 32MB Cache, 8.9ms

    Crucial RealSSD C300 2,5" 128GB
    - SATA 6 Gb/s, opp til 355MB/140MB sec

    Logitech G500 Gaming Mouse,

    BenQ 24" LCD G2420HD
    - 1920 x 1080, 40000:1, 5ms, VGA/DVI/HDMI
     
  15. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    Sorry totally forgot about the CPU cooler. I would chose the Frio :)

    And to the above poster - I was choosing a general good build to demonstrate how his prebuilt system was bad value for money, rather than a "perfect" system :)
     
  16. murraynt

    murraynt Modder

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    *Shudders* You should really build your own, or else ring scan and tell them the exact spec you want.
    Ringing is easier as its more personal and they will probably be more lenient with price, what you can get etc.
    Remember its a buyers market if some company doesn't want to do it there is always one that will, scan of instance.
    I find it rediclious that you can go any lower than 12gb of ram
     
  17. dancingbear84

    dancingbear84 error 404

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    Build it. You know it makes sense. And the sense of achievement when you finally finish a build is something you can't put a price on.
     
  18. aLtikal

    aLtikal 1338-One step infront of the pro's

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    ...if your not sure about building it...get Scansure so your covered against any brekages.
     
  19. markbrett64

    markbrett64 thanks to denial I am now immortal

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    +1 Yes build that... all us good folks at Bit-tech (sorry will never bring myself to use the abbreviation BT... ack ack ack).... will be here to help you out with stuff... believe me... the satisfaction you get when you complete your own first build is more than worth it... (disclaimer: it is NOT better than sex).

    Though if I could offer some alternatives.... OCZ Vertex 2E over the Intel SSD... and 1 x Samsung F3 to get you going... and check the case alternatives... the RV2 is a great case, but there are lower cost alternatives that you will appreciate just as much.
     
  20. thehippoz

    thehippoz What's a Dremel?

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    yeah that looks good for a non oc'd rig.. probably wait for the new cards to release- it's really close now.. the new ati cards are scaling really well in cf if you really want to go that route

    I've always been in the single gpu camp.. you don't have to upgrade drivers and less hassle getting things to work on release (even though sli/cf is pretty good- you check out the new cf numbers on the 6 series, geezus almost 100% scaling)

    better power bill, but we pay sick amounts for power here in the valley.. dunno how it is over there
     

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