Motors Buying a second hand car in the UK

Discussion in 'General' started by Kovoet, 17 Feb 2010.

  1. pimonserry

    pimonserry sounds like a party.

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    Possibly less warranty, maybe less features like the 7 speed DSG a lot of VWs are getting now, but Seats are based off the same platform as most VWs and IMO look a lot more attractive.

    Edit: Krikkit has put it better than me :lol:
     
  2. Pie_uk

    Pie_uk British beef, in Britain

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    oh right nice! well thats good then they will be reliable! cant find any decent cupra's for cheap under 100k miles tho :(

    maybe look into the ibiza? or standard leon?

    2.0 litre ibiza is slooww like 10.5 0-60 , so they obviously take a leaf from vw then


    how is a 1.4 mg so quick (in relative terms)

    i test drove a 2.0ltr gti golf and it was shite slow. or maybe it was buggered.

    i sometimes drive a company car, 1.9tdci vectra and that thing flys in comparison


    just found a pug 306 gti 6 for £2400 72k miles in oxford, worth a shot?
     
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  3. Xen0phobiak

    Xen0phobiak SMEGHEADS!

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    The ZR has a powerful 1.4 engine, rather than one detuned for reliability. Headgasket anyone? Its also a lot lighter than a golf.

    A modern 1.9/2.0 turbo diesel will pull better in gear than a 2.0 NA petrol, plus the way the power is delivered makes it feel quicker, the diesel gives you a big shove circa 2-2.5k rpm, whereas the petrol builds up to it at 5-7k
     
  4. Pie_uk

    Pie_uk British beef, in Britain

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    yeh diesel have that effect, i was quite amazed. plus better mpg. how often will a head gasket blow on a zr?

    maybe i shud look for a t diesel of some kind
     
  5. Xen0phobiak

    Xen0phobiak SMEGHEADS!

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    I was joking about the headgasket - the K series Rover engines are known for headgasket troubles, but I don't know if the ZR actually uses a K series.

    If I was buying a fun/weekend car I'd be buying a petrol with at least 6 cylinders. If I was buying another daily driver it would be a common rail turbo diesel every time.
     
  6. Pie_uk

    Pie_uk British beef, in Britain

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    damn maybe i shud have bought the zr before him lol. yeah just a fun car im after
     
  7. Xen0phobiak

    Xen0phobiak SMEGHEADS!

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    What is fun for you? Blasting around the B roads at the limits of a slower car? Blasting around the B roads in a fast car? Straight line fun? Track days?
     
  8. Pie_uk

    Pie_uk British beef, in Britain

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    blasting around b roads in a fast car !
     
  9. el2k

    el2k Modder

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    I have a mk5 fiesta zetec S. It's only a 1.6 petrol but i find it rather fun... More fun than any big car I've ever driven. I have it lowered and have my suspension on "hard" setting so It's major fun on b roads/windy lanes.

    Small cars like this can deffinately hold their own and be great fun on windy roads, It corners a proper beast!!

    Personally i think it looks nice too, Not in your face boy racer style - just nice and amsart looking.

    You can pick a 2000 Reg up for aruond £1600 with 80K miles on the clock?

    I'll upload a picture of mine after work if yuo want to see it :)
     
  10. Pie_uk

    Pie_uk British beef, in Britain

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    yeah sure thanks mate sounds like a fun car, be good to do a few jobs on the car i get, after all its going to be a bit of fun before uni. get it really twitchy and sharp on the handling.

    looked at the fiesta and something boy racer springs to mind about the looks of it/chavy? guess if i can pick up a standard one they look smart in the right colour
    what do you lot think to the 306 gti 6?
     
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  11. Krikkit

    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    Twitchy on public roads is a very bad idea.

    GTI-6 is a pretty classy bit of kit, a good compromise between speed and comfort, solidity and lightness. :)
     
  12. Pie_uk

    Pie_uk British beef, in Britain

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    yeah cause i found a gti 6 for £2400 ono 72k miles, mint condition full service history etc, in oxfordshire.

    maybe shud give that a go

    http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1486848.htm

    either that, or a 206 2.0ltr gti 180 306 86k miles?
     
  13. Kovoet

    Kovoet What's a Dremel?

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    thanks for that link
     
  14. Pie_uk

    Pie_uk British beef, in Britain

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    no problem
     
  15. Xen0phobiak

    Xen0phobiak SMEGHEADS!

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    PureSilver E-tailer Tailor

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    Evo II? 252bhp! 0-dead in under 15 minutes! Epic car
     
  17. Rogan

    Rogan Not really a

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    Don't bother with a GTV, my sister has an '05 and it's always throwing up management errors.
     
  18. memeroot

    memeroot aged and experianced

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    what are the chances of insurance on that baby.....

    golf vr6 - dirt cheap and keep the rest for spares and petrol.
     
  19. 13eightyfour

    13eightyfour Formerly Titanium Angel

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    Ive been to that keighly place with the evo, I went with kernel to look at a '91 vtec crx a few years ago. Ill be honest they're the biggest bunch of cowboys ive ever come across, even if a car was cheap i wouldnt buy it from them!!

    Have you had a look at integra typeR's? The 1.8 engine is a peach, great for a blast and not bad driving around in traffic
     
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  20. okenobi

    okenobi What's a Dremel?

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    I've been busy working and lots of good suggestions have been thrown in.

    Don't get a pre-2002 Fiesta. The 1.6 Zetec in the 02-08 model is pretty quick, but only as much as your mate's car. As you stated you wanted to beat him, I've got a curveball for you....

    Octavia 1.8T 4x4

    4 wheel drive for better traction with 75 more horsepower than your mate. Over a second quicker to 60 and more top end. It's also quiet, comfortable and reliable. You might fail on the chick front, but that's only until you take them for a ride :thumb:

    I'm starting to think 1.8T is the way to go, but a Cupra will be an insurance nightmare. As will a GTI or a vRS (trust me). However, the Octavia came in 1.8T 150ps with Elegance trim, which is top spec, but not sporty. You could always change the suspension though ;)

    As for the 2.0s, yes they're gay and your mate will run rings around you. A TDI of any decent quality is outside your budget and a 150 is most definitely too rich. In the age your budget allows, a derv isn't gonna beat your mate, but could provide some entertainment nonetheless.

    On that front I'd be looking for a 110 1.9TDI A3 in Sport trim. As quick as your mate with better economy and loads better put together.
     

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