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Other Buying from Ali Express/Outside of the UK/Customs charges etc

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  1. keef247

    keef247 Yer Da Sells Avon

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    So I'm probably going to be buying something above the £135 limit for vat/customs charges from Ali Express next month if all goes to plan...

    It's £165 posted... What can I expect to pay? I'm guessing 20% vat then whatever royal mail or the courier want to charge me ontop which I've read is around £8-12 then what about any other charges?

    I've never done this before.

    Thanks!
     
  2. cobalt6700

    cobalt6700 Minimodder

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    Anything over the £135 limit will be chargeable by customs for:

    - VAT
    - VAT on the shipping
    - Duty fee - this is based on the total price (incl shipping and VAT) and is usually in the region of 2%. However this depends on the 'commodity code'. These can be found here:
    https://www.gov.uk/trade-tariff
    As to what the sender will actually list the code as... I have had varying success.
    - Handling fee. About £8 - £12 is right. Sometimes it is a percentage of total cost again, this time total being all of the above.
     
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  3. keef247

    keef247 Yer Da Sells Avon

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    So what'd you reckon they'd nail me at worst come worse? It's £165 with free postage, so I've budgeted for £230ish? Just to be safe?
     
  4. Big Elf

    Big Elf Oh no! Not another f----ing elf!

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    All the purchases I've made from AliExpress recently (admittedly none over £135 but around 20 separate items) have had the VAT charged when payment was taken.
     
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  5. DeanSUNIAIU

    DeanSUNIAIU Minimodder

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    On AliExpress you pay the VAT up front now. If you go through the checkout it’ll get added to your cart.
     
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  6. andreinuk

    andreinuk Minimodder

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    I got my Fanatec gear last year from Germany and had to pay the import duties.

    Worked out at about 23-24% of the total amount.

    The joys of being out of the EU.
     
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  7. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    Yes, take back the power!!

    :lol:
     
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  8. spazmochad

    spazmochad Minimodder

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    I think once it's over the £135 mark they leave the vat off and charge it on import. I've had FedEx and DHL give me some heavy charges on top of the VAT.
     
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  9. keef247

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    cheers mate, I think i'm going to leave it, knowing my luck it'll be faulty or fail not long after as I get terrible luck and then will have lost loads of money.
     
  10. DeanSUNIAIU

    DeanSUNIAIU Minimodder

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    I’ve bought loads of delicate stuff from AliExpress over the years and if you send them a message to double bag it or add another six layers of bubble wrap, they will no bother!
     
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  11. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman World's worst stuntman. Lover of bit-tech

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    I think bits from china may be looked at more kindly, not sure if we have a trade deal sorted with them, never had anyone come asking for anything. Germany on the other hand, they will **** you as hard as they possibly can. Avoid DHL. Total dick wads that don't have a ****ing clue what's going on, to the point where they said "but this is what's been agreed with all EU members" and I had to remind them the only reason we were talking was because we were no longer a member of the EU.
     
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  12. keef247

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    cheers guys. I think I'm going to leave it I have too much bad luck and the idea of a random brand mobo with a soldered in cpu is rather risky if 1 fails the other does.
     
  13. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    Things from Aliexpress will be pre-charged for VAT. Even small things. So no worries on customs/tax front.

    I've bought a £188 item online, thinking it was cheaper than £210 from Amazon. But was charged £53 by DHL. Luckily the seller partial refunded me £30, making it similar price and lesson learnt.

    The lesson was, if customs tax isn't pre-charged at checkout, you may get stun by a large bill. So buy local if at all possible.
     
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  14. keef247

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    yeah that's what I'm thinking and I'd rather support known brands/uk businesses selling it vs dodgy scumbags on ali express hence never using them before after hearing horror stories lol.
     
  15. spazmochad

    spazmochad Minimodder

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    I'm really not sure they always charge VAT upfront, the last two expensive things I purchase there (microscope and Voron printer, £250/£360) in 2021 don't list tax on the order invoice whereas cheaper items all do.
     
  16. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    That's interesting. I don't buy expensive items from there because there's very little recourse.
    May be tax calculation on checkout is recently introduced?
     
  17. Byron C

    Byron C Ripping a line of speed off a sh**-encrusted bog

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    It’s definitely a gamble importing stuff these days. Last thing I ordered from that far away was a DE-10 Nano FPGA devkit and I ended up avoiding any extra charges, duties, or VAT. But that was direct from the manufacturer in Taiwan, rather than AliExpress in mainland China, and I did pay nearly $60 in shipping to FedEx.
     
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  18. keef247

    keef247 Yer Da Sells Avon

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    yeah I'm just gonna leave it I think mate. Rather give someone over here my money second hand or it to scan than some scumbag in china then get bent over for delivery!
     
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  19. spazmochad

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    Quick way to check is add something expensive the cart and go to purchase, it's missing the tax section which is there on cheaper items.

    I think it's a toss up whether they open the parcel at customs if it's coming via the standard shipping method on there. I would factor in VAT and shipping fees for sure if they are using FedEx or DHL.

    One trick I did learn about the other day is to set the site to dollars and a pay with a fee free card. Works out a fair bit cheaper that way due to the site's default currency conversion fees. I've just been using PayPal/GBP the whole time so probably overpaid for a few things, but I don't really get much from China now if I can help it.
     
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  20. liamredskis

    liamredskis What's a Dremel?

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    Exactly, you'd think that brands will put extra care on packaging as the trend of ordering stuff online grows, but nah, the risk that your fancy table will arrive with a little piece missing from one corner remains the same. At least getting clothes via dropshipping is a tad more reliable, though that has much more to do with the nature of the stock than anything else. Plus, getting (partial) refunds on damaged goods is rarely not a nightmare...
     
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