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News Cameron to announce block-by-default web filters

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Gareth Halfacree, 22 Jul 2013.

  1. Tynecider

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    Dr Martyn Thomas..

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  2. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    When a survivor of sexual abuse speaks out about Cameron's proposals, it makes you sit up and take notice.
    http://zine.openrightsgroup.org/features/2013/porn-blocking

    Even youth advice charities are warning of the harm this filtering will cause.
    http://www.youthnet.org/2013/07/vital-support-to-young-people-at-risk/
     
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  3. miller

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    But for some reason the UK doesn't have the available resources. :confused:

    "UK doles out more aid than any other G8 country despite the savage cutbacks at home"
    British bill for foreign aid will be £8.7bn in 2011-2012, rising to more than £12bn in 2014.

    David Cameron agreed to pump millions more into foreign aid while making cuts at home. His decision led to Britain being branded the ‘soft touch’ of the international community by one of his own MPs, and a damning report released at the G8 summit reveals that Britain spends more on aid as a percentage of national income than any other G8 country – while British taxpayers suffer through an age of austerity.

    The UK is spending exactly twice as much on foreign handouts as a share of Gross Domestic Product as the G8 average of the world’s leading economies.

    Interestingly, At the G8 Summit held there Mr Cameron said the aid payments would protect Britain's national security interests.

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  4. Nexxo

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    Foreign aid is a complicated issue. If you don't help Third World countries solve their poverty problems, their poverty problems will come to us. Ask any illegal immigrant or Somali pirate.
     
  5. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Actually instead of putting more effort/funding into child protection services like CEOP, the government has cut CEOP's funding by %10 this year. Ex-Staff have also disputed claims made by the prime minister that the number of police investigating child abuse has increased by 50%.

    And...
     
  6. ripmax

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    It gets worse

    https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/sleepwalking-into-censorship
     
  7. RedFlames

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    99.9% of the internet could theoretically come under 'web forums' [essentially any site that allows user comments] and/or 'esoteric material'

    also 'web blocking circumvention tools'... [based on experince with the the Proxy at college and uni] Google/Bing Translate et al. and archive.org are both a no-no then [both were blocked as 'proxy avoiding tools']

    most of the those terms are so ridiculously vague and/or poorly defined that anyone enabling them may as well not bother having the internet...

    and if this is the kinda crap they're pushing to be 'on by default' then you might as well move to china... you'll probably be able to access more stuff...
     
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  8. miller

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    Somali pirates, illegal immigrants? We are talking about funding for law enforcement agencies who do not have the resources to identify, locate and protect child victims, when a government can find billions for overseas aid there is no excuse for law enforcement agencies to be underfunded especially when the UK already gives more aid than any other G8 country, I really don't see this has anything to do with Somali pirates.
     
  9. Nexxo

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    I know, that's where you kind of go wrong. Think of foreign aid as much less of a charity and much more a part of foreign policy within a complex and ****ed up geo-politics. It isn't going to go away.

    Of course the government could spend more money on law enforcement and less on vanity projects like the Olympics. But that is not its philosophy. It wants to outsource every government expenditure possible to private enterprise. So rather than paying more for law enforcement, it rather sells licences to private companies to provide some token version of it.
     
  10. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    At least when they privatise everything we cant blame the government for things :hehe:
    Well we can, but the Government will just blame the private firm running what ever project has gone wrong ;)
     
  11. Nexxo

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    That's the whole idea. If you look at the changes in the NHS over the last two decades, you see that ministers are re-organising it to put an increasing number of levels of accountability between themselves and the health service at the coal face. The idea is that they can do to it what they want, but never be the ones who are actually held to account for when things go wrong.
     
  12. miller

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    Your cynicism of politicians and governments exceeds even mine, even if there is truth in it.
    (Note to self, buy some more tinfoil)
     
  13. Nexxo

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    "The man who laughs has not yet been told the terrible news" --Bertold Brecht
     
  14. Corky42

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    At least he is laughing :hehe: The rest of us will be crying :waah: when we realise what has been given away under the guise of protecting the children.

    Allowing the government direct access to ALL internet traffic in the UK is probably one of the worst infringements of civil liberties since the anti-terrorism laws.
     
  15. miller

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    "What monstrous absurdities and paradoxes have resisted whole batteries of serious arguments, and then crumbled swiftly into dust before the ringing death-knell of a laugh!" ~Agnes Repplier
     
  16. Nexxo

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    Trust me, I don't do conspiracy theories. I'm of the philosophy that common things commonly happen, and besides people are too dumb to really keep a secret and carry out some complicated nefarious scheme.

    Then again, we learn about PRISM, the Metropolitan police spying on Steven Lawrence's family with the aim to discredit them, the Humberside police spying on the family of Christopher Alder after he inexplicably died in custody. Andrew Wakefield turns out to have had financial interests in patenting a vaccine that competed with the MMR jab, and a key government scientist whose research was used by ministers to argue against a ban on pesticides thought to harm bees is to join Syngenta, the chemical giant which manufactures one of the insecticides...

    And yeah, Cameron's cynical publicity move does happen to involve the plan to hand a fat contract to his former school chum who runs TalkTalk, the company which is a generous party donor, and their filtering system happens to be run by Huwaei, a Chinese company set up by a former Chinese military officer, and which the NSA has stated is spying for the Chinese government. These are not huge complicated conspiracies, but organisations definitely knowingly breaking the law, and people acting duplicitously in obvious self-interest, leading to all kinds of wrong happening on a huge scale.

    Wikileaks revealed a whole bunch of shenanigans, as you know. And why are the Bilderberg meetings, of the most powerful industrialists and politicians, held in strict secrecy, when the attending politicians are supposed to be acting in our interests?

    Power corrupts. Every time. So although there may not be X-Files type stuff going down, and 9/11 really was just a bunch of terrorists getting lucky, there is a lot of outrageous stuff happening all the time that we don't know about. Because people are stupid and power corrupts, and nobody seems to have a ****ing sense of boundaries and ethics.
     
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  17. tuk

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  18. Nexxo

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    Well, yeah, there's all these connections. But my point is that it isn't a conspiracy. This network wasn't the embodiment of some kind of plan. It just kind of organically grew out of powerful people and organisations doing stupid and unethical things for short-term gain. It was bound to end in tears sometime.
     
  19. tuk

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    There are several possibilities what might have happened, we will never know the truth now.

    But one of those possibilities has to be that 9/11 was staged to manufacturer the consent of the American people & the rest of the world to invade the middle east and seize one of the largest untapped oil fields on the planet, an act which would conveniently sky rocket the price of oil, making the prize 10 times it's worth + the advantage of knowing how the markets would respond before anyone else, not to mention the trillions given to private companies to supply the hardware of said invasion.

    Another possibility is the official version which goes something like: a bunch of irate shepherds from Afghanistan led by a slightly retarded dude managed to bring down the twin towers with a couple of jet planes, why? cos they are "terrorists".
     
  20. Corky42

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    It goes a little deeper than just calling them "terrorists" you have to look at the reasons people feel compelled to carry out these horrific acts.
     

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