Cooling Cascade improved

Hi guys,

here's something a friend of mine manufactured .. what do you think ?
Cascade evolution

 

Looks interesting but would be useful if you told us a bit more about what he has done and his theory behind it and what improvement it has had on temps etc

 

Whatever it is it doesn't look to easy to mass-produce.

 

actually the main improvement are the tubes, which are now more "packed" above the cpu core, and their small external diameter which allows to "sink" them deeper into the groves in the base plate .. and it's also more durable .. if all goes right he can produce bout 10 monthly .. this is one of the first ..

 

Hmmmm.......but how can he get his hands on 10 cascades a month???

 

he does not he made the whole block .. the idea is of course cathars .. but he got the machine and stuff so he just made his own .. this is v.2 .. v.1 was a total copy of cascade block (acrylic middle part)

 

hmm - is it me or are the holes on the top misaligned?

 

well this is one of the first .. made mainly for testing not looking

 

btw, the little misaligmend of the holes for mounting on mobo does not matter
MC

 

looks like a nice block but i don't think it will beat the cascade. As if you compare the picture i think you'll find that the cascades nozzles are closer together and in more fo compact design then your one. Although yours is very nice and will most likely give similar results


morgan.

 

this are the dimensions of the base plate groves in milimeters .. consider if is still seems larger than original

 

Without seeing the arrangement of the tubes it's hard to say just how well this may work.

I'm not so sure it would lose to the oringinal Cascade, it has densly packed cups and 58(?) of them. If the tubes are well arranged & sized it should do just as well as the original.

Quite a fine effort, Cathar's blocks are done by a professional machine shop. With several differant highly experianced mill operators to collaborate on how to best execute a design they are a tough act to follow, even when useing the original Cascade as your guide.

Approx. how many hours do you have into this block?

EDit:

I forgot the link he offered in the very first post. Much better.

 

I'm interested in the diamiter of the individual little tubes, OD & ID?

That is the best executed home done Cascade I my self have seen. And it's for sure the only home built I've seen that I think has a real hope of comparing well with the original. Even if it falls a bit short, it should not be by very much. Your friend has fine skills, he should be very proud of his workmanship.

 

hehe i almost answered you, but now I see you had found the photos
I don`t know the exact time needed to make one of these ... they are being made by one single person on his selfmade mill but I think it takes some time to make the middle part and it has some percentage of "spoilage" (bad pieces) ... and the persone who makes them has a "real" job and family too so it`s like cathar .. no that much time to make WB

Diameter of the tubes are 1,0/1,35 mm (ID/OD), tubes on v1 has been made from acrylic like on cathar`s cascade, but metal on v2 seems to be better for manufacturing and performance too (the tests to compare v1 vs. v2 has not yet been done)
thx. for the compliment but there is no possibility to make real comparison with "real" cascade, because we don`t have one
MC

EDIT: btw SajmoN is my brother
EDIT2: real ID/OD

 

Nice approximation. Jet density is but one of the factors affecting overall performance though. I noticed that the width of the jetted area is significantly under the width of various CPU types, and that's something to keep an eye on as a hint.

As for Cathar's idea of a "Cascade Improved". Ignore the "messiness", this is just a first-cut prototype fresh from the mill. Coming soon....

 

BOW DOWN! Cathar has arrived!

 

Hello Cather welcome to the boards, like to see you've got a nice design going


morgan.

 

Welcome Cathar! I'm sure your input will be greatly appreciated on these forums.

 

nice work man and btw .. the dimensions are quite allright, only problem is with a64 because the shape of the core (problems with mounting because of orientation) but on other types of cpu`s is enough over the dimensions and shape of the core and as everyone know`s that is the place to cool down btw .. what are the dimensions of jetted area on original cascade? and on the new one .. ?
I hope to make some time to make some test and post some result during next week .. we didn`t make this as a real competition for original cascade (but it could be better or the same ) but as a alternative because your cascade is no longer beeing made and it costs much more then this (up to 2 times more !)
i am really looking forward for the cascade xxx or your comments to this block
MC

 

Am i right in thinking that if you have more densly packed jets then the flow resistance will increse as there is less room around the jets for h2o to escape and this may attualy have a negitive effect on performance?

just a thought