I believe in God and stuff, but earthly people making rules about what happens to your soul after you die is just ridiculous. It was a good move though, but I just don't think the vatican has the power to decide what God wants.
This stresses the importance of punctuation in clarifying communication. No delays, straight up to heaven; that's the Protestant version. Catholic theologians parsed the un-punctuated original as: A promise of jam one day, but no date set. Purgatory can be fitted in. Here endeth the lesson.
Maybe it's just because I didn't care when I was learning this stuff back at Sunday School, but I was always under the impression that nobody got strait into heaven except saints until Judgment Day. Meh, I don't really care any more now than I did then.
That is the Seventh Day Adventists. Like Pepsi Cola or Coca Cola, everybody has his preferred version, yet it is more or less the same thing. Anyway it is a nice example of what I talked about in another thread: if the church wants to be relevant to today's life and society, it has to evolve its beliefs to be relevant. That way it is in a position to truly offer spiritual guidance and support.
What you take for truth on earth I shall take to be true in heaven, is something like something written in the bible or similar somewhere Does this mean the church has condemned babies to be stuck in limbo for centuries?
Poor babies... I find the vatican a rather confusing structure as I cannot determine if its primary reason for existence is as a centre of power or as a centre of faith. No offence to the religious here, I cannot deny being somewhat religious myself, but I just have problems with the vatican. Bloody Romans
I think that's what you're thinking about. But that's making the assumption that God considers the Catholic church entitled to hold the keys mentioned Why decide a concept isn't valid when they've overlooked the solution...... The Catholic church doesn't practice this (as far as I know) but it would certainly help the souls of those unbaptised who (for one reason or another) weren't when they were alive. Solution=baptism by proxy.
It's almost sounds like the article/paper is saying Pope Benedict has saved millions of lives from being stuck in limbo because he decided it wasn't a good idea and has got rid of it XD
They did in Communist Russia. That really worked then. People need something to believe in. If it is not religion, it will be something else. It could actually be worse.
I think the idea in Russia was to make people believe in the state, rather than religion (too much of a distraction).
So the state was the religion, but what happen when it went poof? I guess you know state Russia is in now?
If you're an unborn baby, then yes. Otherwise, once you've begun your life and have begun to take advantage of that wonderful free will, then you're held accountable for your sins. That is, of course, according to the beliefs of the church. Obviously it doesn't really matter to you, so this new development shouldn't warrant any further thought on your part. -monkey
Does this mean that babies who die before being baptized can now be buried in the catholic church cemetary?
