Modding CCFL tubes

Discussion in 'Modding' started by nosmo, 15 Mar 2004.

  1. nosmo

    nosmo What's a Dremel?

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    Could I connect a CCFL tube directly to the mains by any means.

    I am wanting to use some tubes to provide under cabinet lighting in my kitchen.
     
  2. Go4t

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    try finding a transformer for the right voltage
     
  3. whypick1

    whypick1 The über-Pick

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    Yeah, a transformer will be needed. CCFL tubes that modders use run ~1Kv, 220v won't do much. If you can't find a suitable ready-made trafo, I'm sure someone here will tell you how to build one with lots of WARNING: AC IS DANGEROUS statements. All I know is that a 1:5 turns ratio is what you need to kick up the 220v to ~1Kv (or is it 5:1, I can't remember if its primary:secondary or vice versa).
     
  4. Xiachunyi

    Xiachunyi What's a Dremel?

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    It's 1:5 primary:secondary, but I am wondering about the frequency... Doesn't the inverter pulse the current in the kHz range?
     
  5. nosmo

    nosmo What's a Dremel?

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    This is going right over my head guys.
    I haven't a clue what you mean TBH.

    Isn't it a case of just getting a 12V transformer as opposed to a 1000V that you suggest ?
    Surely a PC doesn't provide this sort of power to a tube ?
     
  6. kenshin

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    12v pc rail --> inverter -->1000v+ but at a low current i think
     
  7. nosmo

    nosmo What's a Dremel?

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    :waah: I don't understand.

    Can I or can I not connect a 12V computer neon tube to 240V mains ?
     
  8. Tetsugaku-San

    Tetsugaku-San What's a Dremel?

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    If your still going to use the Invertor that you have - then yes I'm pretty sure all you need to do is supply the inverter with 12V - the replies above seem to think u want to loose the inverter completely

    (don't do anything on my advice by the way I'm not sure)
     
  9. SteveyG

    SteveyG Electromodder

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    If you can find a suitably rated (I.e. capable of supplying 500mA per tube) mains to 12VDC power supply then it's simply a matter of connecting the output of this power supply to the input to your CCFL inverter.

    Why not just use a slim flourescent fitting though? They're designed for this kind of application and won't leave high voltage wires exposed/dangling.
     
  10. nosmo

    nosmo What's a Dremel?

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    I am wanting to use these so I can have blue coloured lighting instead of plain bright white.
    I am after subtle lighting not searchlight bright.

    Also CCFLs are so cheap now I thought it would save a few quid :naughty:
     
  11. Blue Raven

    Blue Raven What's a Dremel?

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    you can connect the ccfl to the mains with a wall wart (the big boxes with a plug built in and a cord coming out) you can buy them or rip them off old answering macines, cordless phones, battery chargers, ect... Find one that is close to 12 volts, like 9 to 13 volts, and DC. cut off the connecter and splice it onto the cold cathode inverter. Check the polarity with a voltmeter. btw this is a wall wart. Or if you want premaid then try this. I think that most online stores that carry el lighting and cold cathodes, will have something like that. elwirecheap is just the first thing I found from google. Even though the afformetiond products are for neon wire, the same setup should work for cold cathodes.
     
  12. malcs

    malcs oops! i put a hole in the ***** :(

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    if i were you i would make a transformer using 100 turns on the primary coil using quite wide wire, and on the second coil i would use 500 turns, that way you dont have to use QUITE so wide wire :) also that gives insulation :D make sure EVERYTHING IS INSULATED. MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS INSULATED. thanks. the transformer should look like this

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