Thanks for the advice on the CX400. The 460 isn't just for the sims, it's also in case I want to sneak a game of L4D2 in while I'm round hers - looking at the Asus 460 atm, for £128, wish the msi was the same price, as apparently it's a bit quieter. In regards to cooling/OCing was going to go Freezer 7 Pro with a voltage lowering cable to take it down to 9.5v so probably won't overclock - although might consider a core unlock (I don't know how much this affects temps though, anyone?) The p180mini is supposed to be pretty quiet too. So I'm hoping the whole thing should be pretty hush. Recently looked at getting a Phenom quad core 2nd hand but their prices are just too high atm.