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Networks Connect switch to a router / Boosting Wifi signal

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by ry@n, 14 Jul 2010.

  1. ry@n

    ry@n Minimodder

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    The current setup in our house is a virgin modem connected to a 4 port D-Link router on the ground floor, I have a 25 meter ethernet running upto my attic bedroom as even Wireless N gives a crappy signal in this old house.

    I want to connect my Xbox 360 and laptop to the wired network in my room by adding a switch to the end of the ethernet cable that runs there. The router doesn't have an Uplink port afaik and im aware that you're supposed to use a crossover cable to connect a switch to a standard ethernet socket.

    I don't want to disturb the wiring so should I convert the 25m ethernet into a crossover and get a switch, or does anyone know of a small/cheap switch that doesn't need to be connected via a crossover?

    Something like this:

    [Modem]--->[Router]------------25m Cat6-------------->[Switch]---->[PC]

    Hope that all makes sense, thanks :thumb:
     
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  2. Phalanx

    Phalanx Needs more dragons and stuff.

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    As long as the two routers/switches (effectively the same thing) are relatively new (ie. last 5-10 years), then you don't need a crossover cable thanks to Auto-MDIX. Basically, it figures out what cable you plug in and adjusts the data stream accordingly (effectively making an internal crossover inside the switch/router for you).

    Just plug them together using a standard cable to any ports and you'll be fine. Just make sure only one router/switch is managing DHCP.
     
  3. ry@n

    ry@n Minimodder

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  4. roosauce

    roosauce Looking for xmas projects??

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    Mmm ... I would at least try to get something branded - netgear maybe?
     
  5. ry@n

    ry@n Minimodder

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    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    Looks fine. :)
     
  7. Phalanx

    Phalanx Needs more dragons and stuff.

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    Yep, all good.

    Glad I could help :)
     
  8. BlackRaven

    BlackRaven Freaking printers!

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    So all you need really is a hub?
     
  9. Phalanx

    Phalanx Needs more dragons and stuff.

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    I would suggest not using a hub. A hub simply repeats the signal to all ports. A switch sends it to the proper place without causing excess network traffic.
     
  10. Zoon

    Zoon Hunting Wabbits since the 80s

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    These days anything you buy brand new or nearly new will be a switch, not a hub.
     
  11. ry@n

    ry@n Minimodder

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    Arrived this morning, all setup working great! Thanks everyone.

    To save starting a new thread.. Is there something I can plug into this switch to boost the WiFi signal to my iPhone? Basically I want a cheap/basic wireless access point in the room as the router downstairs is almost out of range. Or would it be better to add a signal booster to the router downstairs?
     
  12. saspro

    saspro IT monkey

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    Cheap WAP with it's own network would be better.
    Boosters are usually rubbish.
     
  13. ry@n

    ry@n Minimodder

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    I have a old wireless G Linksys router somewhere, would it be worth digging that out.. would it even working having a router plugged into a router?
     
  14. Demonstealth

    Demonstealth What's a Dremel?

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    Move your existing router to a more suitable place or try changing the broadcast channel to check that there is nothing interferring with the signal, household phones are normally a good culprit.
     
  15. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    it would work providing the router has DHCP disabled as you can only have 1 DHCP on any 1 particular network range.
     
  16. Phalanx

    Phalanx Needs more dragons and stuff.

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    Agreed. Just plug in your old WAP and make sure it is not DHCP-serving, then you're good to go. It will get its own IP from the DHCP already on the network and route wireless traffic there for any other requests for network access.
     
  17. ry@n

    ry@n Minimodder

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    Its just occured to me that if I do find the old router and connect that to my switch, there was no point in my buying the switch! haha
     
  18. saspro

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    Use a WAP not a router. It saves a world of problems
     
  19. Prophet

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    I just got a similar system in place, The phone line is top floor in a 3 tier house. I have a BT HomeHub2 here, The wireless signal doesn't reach to the far downstairs/garden though :( I had an old HomeHub(v1) and connected it to the v2 upstairs using power socket network adapters. A quick setup using my laptop to the hub down stairs and it broadcasts it's own separate wireless network which iPhone/Laptop etc connect to automatically, however connects to the net via the v2 Hub upstairs which controls everything nicely!

    2 useful pages I used to set it up :)

    http://www.filesaveas.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1266955148

    http://www.jarviser.co.uk/jarviser/repeaterhubswired.html
     

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