Consider what happened with US occupations in the Caribbean

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  1. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    This was posted as an opinion piece, but I think the author is right on. Bush and Co tend top posit freedom as the most basic human need, but really it's not. Security, both physical and in terms of meeting basic needs is more important. It's really hard to get someone interested in democratic institutions when they're hungry and at the mercy of anyone with a gun.
     
  2. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    They're not that naive, that's just for public consumption. The truth has always been "Sod them, it suits us better" but politicians can't say that out loud. Democracy is all very well, providing it's the right kind of Democracy™ and not just the people's choice.
     
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    What, so Bush thinks that the purpose of the Iraq occupation is in order to increase the literacy rates and modernise the country?

    lol.

    He thinks that America played an integral role in the development of Germany and Japan?

    lol.

    My question is, who are the Bush administration to assume that their way is the 'right way', and that it is their job to send their military into other countries to fix them up?

    I'm not sure that the reason several thousand US military personel are present in Iraq at the moment, is to give them English lessons...

    Have to agree with you there.
     
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    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Maslow's hierarchy of needs: 1. Food, Warmth, Shelter; 2. Safety, Health, Belonging.

    The Bush administration follows the Project for the New American Century's philosophy: "American leadership is both good for America and good for the world". The Bush election was a political take-over of America as a company to use its economical and military assets to perform a hostile take-over of Iraq as a company. It has nothing to do with democracy, civilisation or literacy. It's all about who controls the oil, and hence, the economy.
     
  5. walle

    walle Minimodder

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    Look, those running this planet are suffering from a bi-polar disorder, which means; being stuck in the mind with no love! they are totally disconnected from the creation itself; harming and killing their own species and for what? oil? power? power to do what exactly? oh that's right; to harm and to kill their own species....it’s not a philosophy but the true definition of insanity! Its like Cancer, Cancer is an insane disease that doesn’t understand that its destroying its own ability to both live and survive, and like Cancer (not to offend these people) so are those running this planet, they are insane but since they are all insane they don’t know it !

    A philosophy it is not so; let's recap, what was it again? that's correct, the true definition of insanety.


    Now I hope I don't get the response from all the computers...


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  6. modgodtanvir

    modgodtanvir Prepare - for Mortal Bumbat!

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    lol walle, you enthusiastic hippie :p

    An interesting analogy though. And very true.

    Thats just it. Now, I have no knowledge of sociology, but could this be attributed to the capitalist nature of our society? And how long before they discover Zimbabwe has oil, and they send troops in there as well?... or is their current preoccupation of Zimbabwe due to oil which they've already spotted...
     
  7. Cinnander

    Cinnander What's a Dremel?

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    The current preoccupation is partly due to it being our fault, and partly due to (in the UK at least) several politicians holding stakes in large mining companies :p. No oil but according to the 'pedia there's chrome, copper, nickel, platium, iron, gold and coal.

    Though, for the moment at least, the 'preoccupation' consists of nothing more than finger wagging, strongly worded letters and economic sanctions which will never hurt the current government and ruling class. Oh and we stripped Rob Mugabe of his knighthood - with this kind of pressure, it's so not long and he's bound to give in!
     
  8. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    Another reason for invading banana republics is simple jingoism when your home government is otherwise not so popular; like the invasion of Grenada in 1983, or "Operation Urgent Fury" in PR terms.
    After the invasion, Prime Minister Thatcher wrote to President Reagan:

     
  9. walle

    walle Minimodder

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    It was the clearest way of putting it as I could think of.


    Peace
     

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