Rant Cops in the UK - useless!

Why are these cops in this country so god damn useless and lazy. Please do not defend I have seen first hand on more than one occasion how useless they are. one occasion phones get stolen from a store and they will not come out for they say having demo's instore are having staff and customers at risk. That is even having camera in the store with full facial's of the idiots.

Today my son's phone gets stolen he then goes to the police station and he has to come back tomorrow, surely they are open 24 hours if they not after everyone feeling sorry for them working all these holidays and so forth was for nothing. Seriously they are god damn a waste of time. Damn I hate them and I am a ex cop and where I come from you attend every issue that comes your way and here in London its like a free for all

 

Kov I couldn't agree more with you mate the police where I live are a bunch of over weight lazy mentally backward idiots 5 cars get keyed up and the local copper says it dont happen ffs must be blind as well. They just not interested in doing the job they are over paid for.

 

The worst thing last time I ran after one of them and tackled them and got the stuff back I get into trouble. You might as well open the doors and say take what you want because the cops are to feckin useless to do anything and if you do anything about it you get into trouble.

 

There is a programme on TV right now, called "Coppers". Go have a look.

 

Buddy for once I thought you were going to come with one of your political correctness essays lol. I am so mad right now. I need a punch bag right now.

 

A mate of mine I used to train with got attacked by three bloke's out side a pub in peckham he won off course and got 3 months for GBH the three A'Holes got compensation

 

Playing the devils advocate here - but what would you want the police to do?

5 cars get keyed - the police spends hours opening a new file using exactly WHAT evidence? It's not as if the perpetrators left their calling card is it?

It's the same for the stolen phone. The police is in no position to help. The phone is long lost now. They can't exactly go around emptying the pockets of every person in a 10 block radius to look for the phone.

 

I love the UK and but sometimes I actually wonder why. It's so lazy and corrupt in the places it shouldn't be. Damn I hate cops so much and what will happen one day vigilante groups will start up. Then the cops and government will wonder why they started up.

Be honest here if something happen to you or one of your family are you going to bother calling the cops. Stuff that if I can sort myself I will.

 

I know what you saying but if you have camera's all over and you can actually see the face why the hell bother do we have all these security camera's all over the place then. That is the exact attitude that they have and why its a free for all. You yourself are not even allowed to arrest or tackle them. What the hell do we have a police force for then.

 

What I actually said was he more or less denied it had happened obviously they arnt going to get the task force out over it, They keep them for getting the tea made lol

 

I think to say all the police are useless is an over generalisation as some do a fantastic job as we rarely ever hear about those.

I think they are however stuck in the middle between politicians and the public which makes it doubly hard.

However my own personal experience of the police is terrible, I have had video, photo evidence of someone stealing my camera a while ago but the police refuse to do anything except give me a Number so I can claim on my insurance no wonder insurance is so high in this country.

There was also a recent incident involving a 18yr old going missing at the hotel across the road (google Haydn Evans, Carden park) His wallet and tie where found next to a waist deep lake near the entrance except the police took 2-3 weeks to find him by which point I imagine he had floated to the top so easy to see. This is an absolute joke the amount of money it cost I could have done that job myself in half a day they disgust me and I think the family should push for compensation its ridiculous I can't believe I pay for these fools..

 

Just go watch the programme. Them come back here.

 

I'm guessing it will make him rage.

On topic, I fully agree with what he says, I mean, just look at the riots...

 

No, perhaps it will make him think.

The programme shows a lot of frustration and wry resignation. Police are underresourced (I mean, just how big do you think London alone is?), burdened by this month's latest politically correct government targets, and a legal system tipped firmly in favour of the repeat-offending neds who they deal with daily. And you feel upset about your phone, your camera, your keyed car? Aw, diddums. They deal with suicides, murder, rape, physical violence and child sex crimes of the seediest kind. They deal with piss and **** and blood and human misery. They deal with desperation and violence the likes of you and I are fortunate never to have to see. And oh, coppers in the UK have no gun. Well, ain't that a little handicap? And then some armchair citizens come along and accuse them of corruption and just not trying hard enough. Please.

Your waist-deep lake turns into a black bottomless pit of mud five steps in. How easy do you think it is to find a body in there? Or to find out who exactly started the drunken bar brawl in which someone mysteriously ended up dead? "I was drunk, constable, I can't remember that night...". Forensics are no good: everybody has everybody's blood on them. And even if you could reconstruct a blow-by-blow account, you now have to convince a jury with an average IQ of 100. Good luck with that.

Example: police pick up a repeat-offending inadequate little ned (again). His grandmother where he lives moans ineffectually: "Oh my heart... Oh my heart... That boy is such trouble. Can't you sort him out?...". But she will not testify that he was out at the crucial time of the crime.

Another example: woman reports a stolen X-Box. Apparently a guy walked right in and took it. The adult brother of the owner, who also lives there, refuses to say who it was. "Some guy just walked in, had a glass of water and left". No, he didn't see him take anything. No, he didn't think to consider it strange at the time. No, he don't know the guy. But instead of his sister telling him to pack his bags and **** off out of her house, she just rants a bit at him. Case closed. What else can they do? Call CSI? Dust for fingerprints and DNA? As if. And the evidence would not stand up in court: (debatable) proof of presence is not proof of crime.

Every ineffectual parent wants their offending kid sorted out --but not with prison, fines or effort on their part please. Everyone wants more effective policing but nobody likes a police state. Everybody wants to feel safe but nobody wants the CCTV cameras. Everyone wants safer roads for their kids but nobody likes speed cameras. And when it looks like the police are a bit overwhelmed, fine upstanding and above all employed citizens are looting and torching shops with the rest of them.

 

In some of the things I agree with Nexxo but if you walk in and you are the only person and they say come back tomorrow now that upsets me. If you have 3 males come into your store steal and phone assault a 4ft nothing customer on the way and top of that you have the actual pictures of the suspects on DVD and they don't come in, now that just makes me think the worst.
Wheather its the cops or not it just makes me feel at the moment its a free for all.

I pay I think it's 25% tax of my wage every month for things like this and people are just stealing for the sake of it then maybe I am in the wrong profession

 

Thank you - you took my post and made it about a thousand times better.

 

It makes me lol.

And why wait?

Someone I briefly knew for a few weeks, told me he would walk into B&Q - steal some wire cutters. Cross the streat, walk into PC World/Currys or somehere electrical, and use the cutters to nab stuff. For some reason, didn't reuse them much, just kept getting new ones. Argos - it's the future.

 

While I agree a lake full of mud would be hard to dredge these are man made with plastic liners regularly drained and cleaned out to maintain the golf course. My point would be would it not be common sense to drain the lake which is easily done if you found personal items near it and no sightings of someone leaving the hotel or getting in a car rather than spending needless man hours searching peoples lofts etc seems like a waste of time and resources to me in that instance.

I do however agree with you regarding the rest of you post Nexxo the police are under tremendous strain but as with many public services in my view I think a little commonsense could go a long way. In Fact there is a distinct lack of it in our society today it astounds me sometimes like in work where I asked the bar man to sweep the outside patio area and he swept it into a pile and just left it there I swear I have to write a step by step list for that guy every time.

 

I live in South Harrow very close to the Police station with my misses in the car we have caught them twice coming out the police ground or car park with the sirens screaming and then they pop into the Tesco Express where we stop off and get milk. What were they doing there standing in the queue buying lunch. I realise people try to defend but they do not help themselves either.

 

Really? I pay 40%. But there was this banking crisis, see, with too many people taking out loans that they could not possibly afford...

Problem is: your case sounds pretty serious, but you don't know what else the patrol in that area is tied up with at the time that's possibly worse. I don't think you're picturing them sitting at a desk with a cup of tea and a hobnob?

It's hard to know what goes on on the other side. I had a cancer service manager complaining that I was breaching waiting times. Unacceptable etc. Then I showed her how many patients per year I am contracted to see over the 2.5 days a week for two hospitals that they fund (not their fault --they are really struggling too): 60 new referrals a year, for an average of 4 sessions each ('cause that's what it takes to come to terms with dying, or losing a breast, or having to crap in a bag stuck to your tummy for life, or chronic debilitating pain, or... --well, you get the idea.

How many patients did I see so far? 90. By the end of the year, 120. For the other two hospitals where I have a similar arrangement it will be 150 new referrals. I'm more than two times over. I work 10-15 hours per week unpaid extra to stay on top. Because only Friday I went through the 45 new referrals waiting for me (triaging urgent cases) and it is a litany of human suffering. Who do I see first? How long do I let others wait? I don't have the answer.

My medical colleagues are in the same boat. The director of surgery works 7.00am to 8.00pm and takes work home for the weekend. Now you know why he earns the big bucks --which is still paid 9 to 5.

I'm mentioning this because there has been a rant about nurses not being attentive enough. I see three qualified staff on 36 beds for a 12 hour shift, with several nursing assistants as extra arms and legs. But they are not trained in dealing with psychological distress. I know, because we keep offering, and their managers keep struggling to release them from understaffed shifts. Round and round we go...

I'm mentioning this because I can only wonder how it is for the police who deal with an equally overwhelming deluge of human need and misery. Who do you help first? Who waits? I don't know. At least nobody hates me for the decisions I make. Although I still have to deal with the anger and upset.