Okay, well I'll agree that OS sales total 12.2B. Let’s break that down ruff estimate... North America 4 billion EU 4 billion The rest 4 billion Obviously that is a guess I don't work for Microsoft so there is no way for me too really know! More to the point... What I was politely try to convey is that IF (big if) Microsoft wanted to make a point. It is capable of making a stand, and just not selling its OS in the EU. The EU being a legitimate body would then have to enforce copyright laws. Anyone with Vista who connected to windows update with an EU ip would have to be prosecuted. I make this point only to point out that it is a loose loose for Europe. I am NOT in anyway try to say America is better or anything like that... So no flag waving please! Everyone in here is smart enough to know that if that scenario played out. The EU would back peddle way before an alternative could be introduced. Then Microsoft, In all honesty would be holding all the cards... I really hope it doesn't come to this!!! Also I think the core issue has been lost. The EU's complaint has nothing to do with IE or WMP being on the OS. The EU's Issue is that they are both CORE Components that cannot be removed. Unless you are a power user that hates M$ and has WAY too much free time. All in all IMO the EU has bigger fish to fry... SO Glad American Football IS BACK, Glnsize GO PATS!