Current US riot situation

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  1. Pete J

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    Here's one.
     
  2. The_Crapman

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    Watched the 13th amendment on Netflix last night. Just :jawdrop:
     
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  3. Vault-Tec

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    LA 92.
    Flint.
    The Central Park 5.

    Those are just three that come to mind, but I have seen plenty more.
     
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    That actually brought me to tears. Every time I watch it it does exactly the same.

    It's true. Not one word uttered by that woman was not true. It just reminded me of the documentary I watched recently about Nipsey Hussle. A very outspoken man who wanted to build black wealth, and somewhere for black people to go. Only it seems that he fell prey to exactly the same type of disgusting stuff that lady is talking about.

    I've spent the day blocking people on Facebook.
     
  6. walle

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    The c virus coverage and concerns have pretty much come to a halt. Dropped like a hot rock.
    Gone are the good old days of house arrest and of being told to live in solitary confinement.

    Now people are encouraged to speak their piece with riots instead.

    How quickly things have changed.

     
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  7. Risky

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    Police impunity, militarisation and violence to black americans is an important issue. I'm not sure rearranging statues in the UK is on the same level in any way whatsoever.
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    This looks less "black lives matter" and more "this is going to look great on my instagram".

    I'm happy if they want to stick more information panels by statues explaining the good and bad of these figures, I read anything I can get the time to look at, but this looks a bit like editing history.
     
  8. Nexxo

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    Hey, the Right ignored lockdown for shopping days on the beach; the Left ignored lockdown to protest the murder of an innocent man by the police, and associated social injustice. Priorities, I guess.

    You may be missing a little bit of context here.
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    Like 400 years.
     
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  9. Vault-Tec

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    Getting rid of statues that depict people who made their wealth trading slaves is progression. It is not erasing history, it is removing something incredibly offensive to black people.

    The mere fact that any of them may have done nice things for white people has nothing to do with it. History can not be changed but the future can.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52977088

    There you go. Another one gone, not by protestors.
     
  10. RedFlames

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    'You're erasing history...'

    ...say people who had no idea who the **** the guy was until a statue of him went in the drink.

    See also - Statues of Belgium's Leopold II
     
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  11. walle

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    I'm sure they did, 'lots' of people did.

    It is apparent by now that most are opportunists mixed with anarchists that don't care about race relations anymore they did back in the 2011 England riots that kicked off after a black man was shot by police.

    They just needed an excuse to go on a rampage.
     
  12. Nexxo

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    Yup, just spoiling for a fight. Not like the peaceful "Right":

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  13. adidan

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    In the UK we were still 'compensating' slave owners until 2015. It's not ancient history by a long shot.

    As for the statue, the usual channels had been tried for years but the slaver statue stood. It's not erasing history, the council should have whacked it in a museum where our history is catalgoued a long time ago, not left on display as a symbol of reverence.

    But when people aren't heard the inevitable will understandably happen. I mean women didn't get the right to vote by writing strongly worded letters and talking sternly did they?
     
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    Same level? Nope.

    But that tw*t who used his inherited wealth to build a business empire focused on transporting slaves and getting even wealthier by bringing back the products of slave labour (like for example sugar) never should have had a statue in the first place.
    Sure, put him in a history book along side other nasty historic people but a statue? Just no.

    (and before anyone brings up that he gave away some his ill gotten wealth, we don't have statues of Hitler because he pioneered anti smoking campaigns either, conscience laundering does not absolve of heinous atrocities).
     
  15. walle

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    What's the connection between those guys and the 2011 England riots and with what is taking place in London right now?
     
  16. fix-the-spade

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    THE MIGHTY MIKE GODWIN STRIKES FROM ABOVE!

    #ahem#

    I actually think these statues should be preserved in the slavery museum in Liverpool, or in local museums around the country (this is so and so, his wealth paid for this hall and garden, he became wealthy through slavery and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people). The abuse of wealth and power to control the image of people who do truly horrific things is as old as the concept of money, a lot of these people deserve their own special chapter in that history. Just removing the monuments makes it too simple to pretend something never happened.
     
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  17. fix-the-spade

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    They are all symptoms of obvious double standards of law enforcement and the frustration it generates?
     
  18. RedFlames

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    As far as i understand it HMG took on debt in order to compensate slavers, 2015 was when they finished paying off that debt, not when they stopped compensating the slaveholders.

    But slavery was legal in parts of the Empire as recently as the 1930s iirc, and iirc due to legal technicalities and oversight, wasn't officially made illegal in the UK until the 2000s.
     
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  19. Nexxo

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    Why would these guys bring guns to a peaceful protest?
     
  20. walle

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    If one group follows the law and the other does not, where is the double standard?

    That's not answering my question of what the connection between those guys and the 2011 England riots are, or with what is taking place in London right now.

    As to why they would bring guns I can't speak for them.
     
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