OK this first big paragraph and the semi big one after it is just my rant, go ahead and skip it, the stuff after that is important (i guess) Ok well yesterday i ordreed another stick of 512 ram and a parallel pci card (for my lcd) and i was thinking about getting some OCZ BGA Sinks but if i did i wouldnt have enough money for my potentiometers and resistors for my LCD, so i thought about it for like 10 min, then i said ok whatever my LCD stuff is more important that the sinks since i dont really need em. Today/tomorow im gonna order some more stuff from coolerguys, like my ram heatspreader (for looks) a set of dual ccfls, and a vga cooler. I had 133 to spend, if i got my bga sinks, after i got my coolerguys stuff id have 2 bucks left, which isnt enough for shipping my lcd stuff. I feel so stupid because its christmas, and id have enough money, by tomorow for my sinks and stuff. Also on my paper route job i just made 30 more bucks (gotta love the rich customers) from "presents" from them. So i could have ordered my sinks and had plenty left over for my pots and resistors. GOD DANGIT!!!!!!!!!! im so pissed. My newegg order is at stage 3, i dunno if i should cancel it or what, i dont wanna risk losing money and crap. I guess ill have to order my sinks tomorow ok btw, this is the cooler i was originally going to get Arctic VGA Silencer REV 3 but now that i have money, should i just get this? ATI Silencer 1 it has built in sinks doesnt it? would it work on my saphire ati radeon 9800 pro (256bit, 128mb)? will it fit correctly? If i get that i wont have to spend money on bga sinks, but it looks kinda funky with the giant ram sink thing on wouldnt u agree? i can get that, and skip out on the bga sinks, or i can probly get the vga silencer rev3 and bga sinks and maybe this Thermalright NB Chipset cooler only thing is i dunno if i want to take out my mobo to install that thing so what should i do? VGA Silencer REV 3, bga sinks (possibly) and NB Cooler or ATI Silencer 1 (will it fit on my card)
too....much....rambling! Gah! *head falls off* ...I lost interest around the "paper route" story...what is the point here?
well ya that was just a rant, u can skip that, just start reading a lil before u see the links cant decide wether to get a vga silencer or ati silencer
man u should try and cut what u say down if ppl r gonna give u advice they wanna be able to read ur problem in a few lines then say how to help if i see a big bible like that i tend not to read it just a quick thought
...It appears that the first two paragraphs are rants, and the rest is kind've your wind-down from being that angry that long, over something as trivial as forgetting to order something... I'm still missing the question...
wow, lmao ok well to save u from reading the last few sentences Which cooler should i get? the vga silencer rev3 or the ati silencer? will the ati silencer work on my saphire ati radeon 9800 pro (128mb 256bit)? and should i get a thermalright NB cooler?
afaik, the ATI3 (built in sinks) will only fit on 256mb cards using the 9800xt layout, so it probably won't fit on your card. I just got my Silencer ATI1 (no cooling for the memory) fitted to my 9800pro today, and it rocks . Imo go for the ATI1 and add some bga 'sinks, although theres minimal clearance for 'sinks on the memory under where the fan is. You'd have to use shorter 'sinks or cut down some larger ones. edit: I'd go for the ATI Silencer1 over the Rev3. Its lighter, cools better, and has a raised area on the bottom of the heatsink where the core sits. So you get 100% contact without the possibility of having to take off the metal shim around the gpu.
Ati Sliencer with ramsinks i have the ati1 and it work great also the zalman Noth bridge thing is also go as lone as you have good case flow people have used them on the via cpus also so it should be great fot a nb
ya the ati 3 is for 9800 xt's and 256mb 9800 pro, but the ati 1 is for 128mb 9800 pro right? that one will work on my card? is this the right zalman chip sink? http://coolerguys.com/840556016366.html would that be better than the thermal right one? also will that zalman fit on my nf7-s rev2? edit: is it hard to take off the stock nb cooler?
Yes, go for the VGA Silencer ATI 1 Rev 4 or Rev 3. Both will fit a 9800 Pro. AFAIK, like the Rev 3 the Rev 4 doesn't have any BGA RAM cooling. The picture at Coolerguys of the ATI 1 is confusing because the top picture is of an ATI 1 in it's packaging and the bottom pictue is of an ATI 3 out of the packaging. You could save yourself $7 buying the Rev 3 and spend it on BGA RAM sinks. Here's my Sapphire Radeaon 9800 Pro with an ATI 1 Rev 3 cooler and eight Microcool MOSFET chipsinks stuck (permenantly) to the BGA RAM. I sprayed the fan blades and plastic restraining bracket (which you can't see) matt black. I do think the Microcool chipsinks look sexier than anything else out there....and you can also get them in black. I had to cut down 4 of the MOSFET chipsinks so they would fit underneath the ATI 1 cooler. You can also see where the thermal adhesive has oozed out to the edges of the sinks when I installed them. I used Artic Silver 5 for the ATI 1 cooler and Artic Alumina Thermal Adhesive (because it's non-conductive) for the MOSFET chipsinks. Watch out if you use Alumina Adhesive, it sets very quickly (approx. 5 mins). Like TMM said, the Rev 3 doesn't have that very little raised area for GPU contact. I didn't remove the shim around my GPU, stuck on my Rev 3 cooler on quite tightly and it seemed to make good contact (I removed it later to see a good thermal paste footprint on the bottom). If it didin't make a good contact I wouldn't be running my Radeon 9800 Pro overclocked at 440Mhz GPU and 380Mhz (760Mhz effective) RAM. Sticking my hand over the exhaust vent, there is a ton of hot air blasting out the back! Proper job!!! As for removing a NB cooler it's normally pretty straight forward task of undoing 2 clips with a pair of small pliers from the back of the motherboard. However some NB coolers are screwed or bolted down which are even easier to remove, undo the nuts/screws and away it comes. If the NB cooler is unclipped/unbolted and it doesn't come away freely then there may be a thermal pad underneath it. A quick blast with a hairdrier over the NB cooler (don't touch the mobo when doing this) should warm up the thermal pad enough for it to soften and allow the NB coller to come off.
ok well i got confused when u said vga silencer ati 1 so are u saying to get the ATI Silencer 1 or the VGA Silencer Rev3 im not gonna be putting sinks on the gpu side since i dont wanna cut anything so which do i get? and which NB cooler do i get?
Hmmm, I can see where you might be getting confused. When I mean "VGA Silencer ATI 1" I mean both Rev 3 and Rev 4. This is the VGA Silencer ATI 1 Rev 4, also known as just ATI Silencer 1: ATI Silencer 1 And this is the VGA Silencer ATI 1 Rev 3, also known as the VGA Silncer Rev 3: VGA Silencer Rev3 I think the problem lies with a lot of PC stores not listing the names of products properly. Follow this link to see what I mean: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Arctic_Cooling.html This store has listed the Artic Cooling VGA Silencers properly, where as Coolerguys.com have not.
so i should get this? http://coolerguys.com/840556035268.html and then ocz bga sinks from newegg? edit: now im even more pissed, the ocz sinks are outta stock at newegg, i shjoulda gotten them when i got my ram!!!!
Yes, if you want to save some money rather than buying the newer (and slightly more expensive) model. Those OCZ BGA RAM sinks will not fit underneath an Artic Cooling VGA Silencer! They are too tall!! The clearance space between the top of the Radeon 9800 memory and the bottom of the VGA Silencer Rev3 is about 11.5mm. However, I do have 8 of these Tweakmonster BGA RAM sinks for sale (see picture below....I only photographed 3 of them). I've never used them because I lost them in my workshop and then later found them again only after I had bought the Microcool MOSFET sinks. The Tweakmonster BGA sinks' dimensions are 10mm H x 13mm W x 13 mm D. They will fit perfectly under the VGA silencer. They are made from a copper alloy with a chrome finish. Interested?
ya i ordered the vga silencer rev3 last night, took me an hour to order my stuff cuz i couldnt decide i also bought these sinks (3 bucks cheaper at jabtech than at newegg) http://www.jab-tech.com/customer/product.php?productid=2358&cat=93&page=1 the height is 13mm? I might cut them or just not put em under the cooler. I would have boughten some tweak monsters http://www.jab-tech.com/customer/product.php?productid=1526&cat=93&page=1 but they come in 4 packs, so id have to buy 2 which would be too expensive (not really but my sister didnt want me spending too much on her card) are those vantec bga sinks good? i read a review about them it said there decent, should i have gone with the aluminum ocz ones off newegg? (copper was sold out)
Yes, the height is 13mm. They look like a very good bargin and they appear to be the same design as the OCZ BGA sinks. Good find! Yeah, you can if you want just stick 4 of them on the topside memory. If you want to cut down the other 4 to use on the underside memory you will need a normal sized metal file. You'll need to spend sometime slowly filing down the height to 11mm....it is time consuming, but that's what I had to do with my Microcool sinks after hacksawing some of their height off. Remember wash the sinks in water after you've finished filing to remove any stray tiny copper filings and then leave them to dry out. Don't worry, you've got yourself an ideal set of copper BGA sinks. Aluminum sinks do not perform as well as copper sinks because copper is a much better at transmitting heat than aluminum. Pat yourself on the back on making a wise purchase. A few tips: 1) If I had these Vantec sinks I would remove the thermal pads and use Artic Alumina Adhesive instead between the sink and the memory when sticking them on. There is nothing wrong with using Thermal pads, but using a proper TIM (thermal interface material) is better. However, if you do use something like Artic Alumina Adhesive, remember once the sinks are stuck on they are stuck on forever!!! With thermal pads at least you can still remove the sinks later with the aid of hot air from a hairdrier. Your choice. 2) Never, never use a silver based adhesive TIM (like Artic Silver Adhesive) between sink and memory because if it gets any where on the board or on any electrical conducting component....POW....it'll short out your graphics card when you turn it on because silver based TIMs are electrically conductive. Hope this helps you.
Ugh, it actually takes me longer to decipher ur and u and r and ppl then it does to read the message normally.. Sorry.. </off topic> Anyway, I like THIS one.. Then just get individual ramsinks for the memory..
