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Motors Damn Cats!

Discussion in 'General' started by Modsbywoz, 21 Jul 2013.

  1. noizdaemon666

    noizdaemon666 I'm Od, Therefore I Pwn

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  2. Stickeh

    Stickeh Help me , Help you.

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    Yup a friends neighbor scatters slices of oranges / lemons around the periphery of their garden, seems to work well, just look a little crazy!
     
  3. Modsbywoz

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    I'll give that a blast tonight, though, it may look a bit odd on a concrete driveway.

    Cat's weren't on my car this morning when it was absolutely hammering it down though.
     
  4. Tynecider

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    Tell the owners if they don't get their damn tom cats spayed, You will be leaving bowls of anti-freeze at their favorite pissing post.
     
  5. law99

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    you could **** on their drive and sharpen your knives etc on their car saying: What? I don't know any better.
     
  6. Ljs

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    Catch it.

    Then after a few days leave a really suspicious looking meat pie decorated with the cats collar on your neighbours doorstep.

    Leave it a few more days and then release it with a new collar which says "keep me away from our neighbours car, I don't want to be a meat pie" on it.
     
  7. benji2412

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    Agreed, I have four of them and they do as they please. You just have to find something they like more that you don't mind them destroying.

    I'd have to say that ultrasonic devices would be pretty good, although the frequency it uses I'm not sure of. You won't get any mice either which is an added bonus :p

    The problem you get with outside cats is that if their owner doesn't provide a litter tray they will go on peoples property. This should be part of keeping a cat 101 - always have a litter tray so you don't p**s off your neighbours!
     
  8. Unicorn

    Unicorn Uniform November India

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    Just stepped in cat s**t again whilst taking the car out of the garage. The car and my good sketchers now smell like s**t, thankfully I still have a rubber mat in from winter so I can wash it off. I'm getting really sick of this really fast :grr:

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    And I have a flat rear N/S tyre... from sitting in a garage for two days. WTF?!
     
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  9. KayinBlack

    KayinBlack Unrepentant Savage

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    I would look into trapping them. If they're willing to come into the house, they can be trapped easily and humanely and taken somewhere where they will not be allowed to return.

    The concept of a grown person wanting to kill a cat because it's annoying is disturbing. It's a dumb animal that does what nature tells it to. If I shot a dog every time they made a mess in our yard I would be flying in ammunition by the pallet load. I don't because it's just a dog and shoes wash. If my car were that important, I would reconsider my priorities.
     
  10. Unicorn

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    I'm sorry, excuse me for caring about my immaculate, spotless, "I just spent 50 hours cleaning in the past fortnight" car smelling of ****. You live in a rural area, this is an urban housing estate where I can't walk on my driveway without stepping in the **** left by someone else's 4 cats on a daily basis. It's a little different. I more or less grew up on a farm and dealt with much worse smelling waste on a daily basis, but I am not on a farm now and my gleaming car is not a farm vehicle, so I don't want it smelling like one.
     
  11. KayinBlack

    KayinBlack Unrepentant Savage

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    I've never seen a car of any worth equal to the value of a living thing. That was my point. Especially when trapping and surrendering the animals would likely take an afternoon max if they're that friendly. They'd probably even let you pick them up and chuck them in a cat carrier. Humane societies here will let you borrow one to bring in cats in the neighborhood.

    I just thought of something, and this might make a real difference here, though. Where I live, if you posted something like this online, and then the cats went missing, you would be arrested based on your posts about it. The attitudes here are in many cases completely different, apparently-here you would be plotting to commit a class C felony, depending on the state and the attitude of the person that saw the post. If it is different where you are, I cannot say-but I will posit that regional differences are part of the attitude difference. Around here it's just not OK to do that. Any of us will shoot an animal that causes real property damage, or threatens to bite or otherwise injure a person. But every case I've seen around here involving destroying an animal for what you have mentioned ended in jail time.

    I'm editing because I realized that I sounded like a complete ass, when I don't know if your laws are the same or not. Around here, laws or no you might find yourself being asked to do business elsewhere-it's a serious thing, how one treats their animals and the entire population is willing to narc on someone who mistreats them. I hope you'll give me that if it sounded to me like you were going to commit a crime that I would be expected to be a bit harsh. I've edited because I simply thought better of my words before anyone asked me to do so.
     
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  12. Xir

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    Not 100% sure about the law in Northern Ireland, but around here?

    If you shoot a gun in public, nobody cares about the cats anymore... You're an armed maniac till proven otherwise.

    That's a small attitude difference.
    Gun toting -> Nono
    Missing Cat -> Meh

    :hehe:

    Edit: just reread that and it jumped me: Northern Ireland and Guns don't really mix do they, wasn't there something going on there for the last couple of decades?
    Have you still got half the army on top of you if you wave a gun around?
     
  13. Unicorn

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    Don't worry about it, not everyone is obsessive about their car like I am and I know it's an unusual hobby/pastime/thing to put so much effort into, but there are a lot of people doing it, you only have to visit Detailing World and have a read at some of the threads to see just how obsessive some Detailing enthusiasts are about their cars. People spending thousands clearing trees and shrubs from property and building garages just so they can work on their car indoors is a good example of that.

    Anyway, the cats are extremely afraid of us because we chase them on a regular basis. Two of them are deaf, so shouting at them or banging windows is no good for chasing them. I often throw things like washing detergent bottles at them to chase them off, or shower them with the hose if they wander past when I'm washing the car. This has resulted in them not coming onto the property nearly as much as they used to, and certainly never fouling when we're here. They obviously do it when we're gone though, because we always arrive to find it all over the driveway. There's no way we could catch them though, they bolt as soon as they see or hear us.

    Apparently the unwritten law in the UK regarding cats is that they have the right to roam, unlike dogs which under law shouldn't be allowed on other people's property at all. We had exactly the same problem with a dog belonging to some noisy neighbours who were renting a house two doors down from us. The dog was reported for constantly fouling on other people's property, the warden warned them once, then eventually took the dog away to be re-homed. The family have since been evicted by the owner of the house.

    Anyway, it goes without saying that cats which are being allowed to roam and cause a nuisance are protected by the NSPCA and poisoning, shooting or otherwise harming them could result in criminal charges being pressed, depending on the severity of the incident and whether the owner wishes to press. Cats are regarded as property under UK law, so an owner has every right to press charges of criminal damage against someone who harms or kills their cat, and taking a cat falls under the Theft Act just like any other piece of property.

    Unfortunately the victim of the mischievous cat is not protected by any national law and there is certainly no local council legislation here that has anything to do with the removal of nuisance cats or the disciple of owners of such cats. I know this because I've asked. The council representative I spoke to about this on the phone was actually one of the people who suggested deterring them with some rotten fish.

    The bottom line is that it can and probably would be considered a criminal offence to shoot a cat. Leaving out some "past its use-by date" fish is a little different, but it's pretty much the same ball park. If the owner saw me set the food out or saw the cat eating it on our property and it then got sick or died, they would have reasonable cause to assume that I poisoned them and it would be their word against mine.

    Ironically none of the above is relevant, because obviously people have missed the part where I mentioned that I'm too afraid to even transport my air pistol in the car any more, never mind taking it out around home (a suburban housing development). There's just no way I could risk having it in the car any longer, being on such thin ice with my license as it is and living in a country with an increasingly anal police service.

    So, I won't be shooting the cats - I go as far as doubting that I'll ever take my pistol out of the locker again... I can't even carry or transport 90% of the knives that I own in this country. I won't be making them sick either. As much as they are pissing me off at the moment and I literally am stepping in cat **** every time I walk anywhere on our driveway, I have ordered a Contech Scarecrow to deter them and I am both hopeful and optimistic that it'll work. It's scaring them off when we're not there that is the problem, and I hope the scarecrow will take care of that. I might need to buy a second one for the area behind the garage as well because it's one of the places they enter our property most often, although they seem to use the area in front of the garage as their litter box for some reason.

    It's the same here, it's extremely hard to legally own a firearm in this country never mind fire it without getting into trouble, and having been steeped in the violence of the troubles for so long, possession of firearms and even knives is laden with a really negative stigma. Even your average farmer protecting his livestock or crops by shooting pests like rabbits or foxes can get into serious trouble now, and almost all ex-servicemen or political members who would have been allowed to own and carry a personal protection weapon during the troubles can’t do so any longer because of more stringent gun laws.

    There isn’t anywhere near the same army presence that there used to be – they dismantled all remote military outposts during 2006-7 and the last troops left their barracks abandoned at the end of the summer in 2007. These days, you don’t see soldiers patrolling the streets and countryside or military helicopters in the sky ferrying them between patrol areas and barracks like you used to, but there are still some specialist army technical officers (bomb squad) in-country to deal with suspicious devices, which a few diehard fanatics still use to attempt to cause harm to members of the police force. Most are hoaxes, but some are viable, so the army technical officers are still very much needed.

    There has been a much higher anti-terror police presence here since the army left, so instead of dealing with routine roadblocks and army checkpoints, you get traffic stops and spot searches from Crime Operations Police instead, dressed in their black boiler suits and carrying MP5s, and sometimes you’ll even get an English Special Branch officer out on regular PSNI patrols, especially around Belfast.
     
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  14. Nexxo

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    Evil. Genius. Funny. :D
     
  15. Modsbywoz

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    you know. I really didn't expect the thread to go quite this far. But meh.

    Cat deterrent is now working, haven't seen the cat for almost a week now. Which is great as i can wash the car without any problems now.

    I appreciate cats do have the ability to roam and it's in their nature to do so. I don't mind this, just not on my car plz.

    There are other humane ways to deter cats however, infra-red water sprayers ( not much more than a sonic deterrent ) and smells etc you can put down.
     
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    +1

    Gotta make sure you film it though :D
     
  17. xrain

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    First get a live trap, (its a live trap so it won't harm the cat) use some tuna fish as bait.

    Next after you catch one of the cats put on some latex gloves

    Take the cat out of the trap, and cover it with gusto (its a trapping scent derived from skunks, a microscopic amount will make something smell terrible)

    Then release the cat, it will bolt back to it's home, and run into the house smelling terrible and spreading it's newly acquired miasma throughout the owners home.

    The cat will never return, while not being harmed.

    here is a link to the trapping lure http://www.fntpost.com/Products/Marten+Lures/Caven's+Gusto+Lure

    My sister had a friend that used this technique on a cat that kepped pooping on his porch to great effect. Be careful with the gusto though anything that touches the bottle after you open it will smell like gusto.
     
  18. law99

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    That Craig Turner guy is a funny man indeed.
     

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