Rant DAMN! Ran a red light?! Notice of Prosecution?! Help needed!!

Woop woop, Peterborough councils website in your link.

As far as your ticket sounds, pretty sure they just send you evidence and a means of paying the fine. They do not ask for any more details. My friend got a speeding ticket a few months ago. You can write a letter to your/the local police, as he did, unfortunately it didn't get him far as "not knowing the roads (it was near Wales and we live in Peterborough) and following the traffic" is not a good enough excuse, which it isn't but whatever.

So I would first and foremost check the validity of the ticket, if it is legit. Explain the situation from the evidence they have sent you. If you can't see a reason why you did it, just pay it. Fighting it will get you no where.

There was a case where an ex-nasa scientist got a speeding ticket, but he knew he wasn't speeding. He took the photographic evidence, measured the distance between the strips in the road and the time it took him to travel it and it was proven he wasn't speeding. So unless you really can prove you didn't do it, or you had a really good excuse then don't fight the system, man.

 

This sounds dodgy to me, call the acctual council or road safety partnership in your local area or the area the fine claims to be from and find out if its genuine (don't use the number on the ticket).
As far as I'm aware if it was genuine they would know all your details and would meerly send you a ticket and in most cases with evidence and just provide you with a way to play, this seems much more like phishing to me, so get it checked out.

 

I wouldn't worry too much about the insurance hit.

I was experimenting with my 3 points last year by removing them and adding them on various quotes.

On 90% of the quotes it made absolutely no difference.

 

+1

Sounds weird that they are asking for details but havnt given you much details of the offense. Someone correct me if I'm wrong (I don't drive) but if you are caught speeding by a speed camera in England, don't you get a letter through the post identifying the time date and road at which you were found speeding? Wouldn't something similar happen in this instance?

 

Unless you just lucky and get away with it !!!!!

Ask for evidence and check out the photo. Take the photo to a solicitor and IF they know what they are doing you may get away with it. As said before Do not Send details at all.

Sounds a little like a scam to me. I should know ive been up in court 3 time's for driving offences now ... and never once did they ask me for details it was more over you have 3 points and fine or we will see you in court .

 

youll get more points if you contest it wont you? thats the way it happens here and a bigger fine. id just pay it and leave it at that. its hard to argue with an automated system (it was probably a camera on a traffic light) and then youll have to pay a solicitor aswell. and if you say it wasnt intentional youll have to say you werent paying attention which makes you look worse again

they probably want the details so they know who was driving the car at the time. if you pretend you dont know or dont give them details itll go straight on the car owners licence

you cant really call that a minor offense, what if it was a red to let pedestrians cross the road and you ploughed through 5 people.

i dont think getting points once/first time makes any difference to your insurance

can you actually ask for the evidence if its a fine or is that only if its goin to court

id just bite the bullet

 

It doesn't sound dodgy to me at all. Every NIP requires you to give the full name and address of the person driving the vehicle at the time of offence. Evidentiary material is not provided along with this as a matte of course, but it can be requested should the owner of the vehicle wish to see it.

Here is an example to show you what it should look like and what it asks for:



Just be wary if it asks you for anything more than your name and address/contact details. This site may also be useful if you think it may be a scam.

Once you have sent your details off you will then receive the fixed penalty notice with instructions on how to pay and send your license off for endorsement of penalty points.

 

Misconception .... i fought in court for a 2 things related to driveing , one of them i should have lost my licence . i got no points and no fine. Ill not say way cos it was not big of me but it was braking the law. The law can be fought and can be won If you know who to speek to and you get you facts correct.

Nice post above btw.

 

Err...traffic lights are in places where it is deemed that drivers can't fully assess whether it's clear, either because of speed or obstruction of sight or whatever...rolling up and not quite stopping and then carrying on because you can't see anything is TERRIBLE reason to keep on driving...!

If he went through a red light, he went through a red light - the fact that the driver didn't realise is testament to how dangerous it is....

 

Now get fines for cyclists that run red lights.

 

sorry i meant if you get convicted you run the risk, forgot to say that. i know in ireland its automatic

try fighting getting caught at 182kph. didnt even get the option of points and a fine lol

 

I got caught doing 148 Mph in the UK on a laser gun. took them to court and won. No points no fine no nothing.

Allso got caught doing 80 mph in a 50 mph zone on camera and won in court as well and they had to move the camera and lines afterwards.

But ever since i have never speeded and never broken the driving law again.

I was just stupid but lucky.

 

How did you manage that?

 

id like to know too lol

i think the laws in ireland are alittle more straight cut when it comes to driving offenses

 

oky when it went to court the solicitor requested the logs for the Laser device.

Discrepancy's were found.

1) the laser cam had not been calibrated with in 1 year they must be done every day before use.
2) the Laser had been tested in usa California and found to give false readings if a car was on the other side of the road. I was caught on a motor way. Guess what drives on the other side of the road.
3) The guide lines set out by the home office were not followed by the police

and a load of other stuff. (case was dropped and the police told off) and the laser camera laser was decommissioned and they had to by a new one ... (that did make me laugh)

as for the side of the road static camera the lines on the road were 4mm out. this would give a false reading any thing doing over 55mph so then the evedance was not allowed in court. And the camera was situated on a bend not a straight road the road has a 5% curvature this was not taken into account in the development of the camera and the way it was supposed to be used.

Then Manuel for the camera started it could only be placed on a straight road !!!!! So case was dropped. Camera had to be replaced further down the road. and again police were told off.

I did not deny speeding i just deny the speed they said i was doing ... I knew i was going faster as MY GPS recorded my actual speed. but we didnt say that in court obversely.

And it wasn't for a certain person called Steve i would have just pleaded guilty. I will all ways be grateful to him for that.

For got to add the law in this country is crap. you can get away with most things if any error is found in the way they the police interpreted the law ...

 

Check the date of the offence. They have to issue the NIP within 14 days or it doesn't stand.

 

You misunderstand me; my point is that a stop sign it's not always necessary to bring the car to a complete stop, often you can slow to a crawl, assess the situation and move on safely.

Secondly, it's very easy to catch the tail end of a red light, or on some slip roads you can find yourself technically behind a red light, but with a full and clear view of the road you're not meant to be crossing; if it's clear where's the harm?

 

There was a light traffic camera near me that was sending out fines to people even though they've not crossed the line and the picture showed then doing 0mph.

 

You're meant to stop. What you're describing is a give way sign.

 

im sorry but a STOP sign or RED light means STOP ALWAYS not look if its safe and carry on thats called GIVE WAY !!!!!!

OH +1 sounds dodgy id double check the letter with someone who knows this stuff.