dawn of the dead

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  1. tamffc

    tamffc What's a Dremel?

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    just seen the trailer for this film,looks like a remake of the seventys zombie film,were they end up trapped in the shopping mall,looks quite good though
     
  2. mookboy

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    *gasp* Duuuuuuuuude...

    No way will it be as good. Noooo waaaaaaaaay. If it is anything like the utterly **** remake of TCM from last year then it will blow a big one. Seemingly they have toned down the social commentry and satire and instead bumped up the humour. It all looks too 'clean' and modern looking. Half the fun of the Romero originals are that they look really nasty and cheap.
     
  3. El_JimBob

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    To be fair Tom Savini did an excellent job with the 'Night of the Living Dead' remake. I dont see any reason why his remake of 'Dawn....' shouldnt be a corker also.
    Smark zombie marks will be going to see 'Shaun of the Dead' tho - looks like being the best zombie movie of all time.

    SOTD trailer
     
  4. tekcajder

    tekcajder What's a Dremel?

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    yea, out of principal i'd like to see both ... the "of the dead" series was great, ive been watching them since i was little and considering what movies are out at the moment .. i'll give these two a shot. :thumb:
     
  5. mookboy

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    I'd say adequate rather than excellent. It's not a patch on the original.

    And one reason might be that the zombies aren't proper zombies, they're like crazed, cocaine fueled, hyper-zombies. Have you seen how fast they move in the trailer? WTF is up with that? Zombies should be slow, relentless, and single minded. That's half the fun of zombie movies, when one of the characters falls over and the zombies shamble towards them painfully slowly as they try to free their trapped leg/rescue a colleague/start a car/close a door etc.
     
  6. El_JimBob

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    The whole zombie genre needs an update - its why 28 Days Later worked so well. Change the rules a little - its been done with the werewolf and vampire genres and theyre still going pretty strong.
    Give it a chance - im sure itll still be one of the better horror movies this year, if not a patch on the original. Lets face it, 'Dawn of the Dead' is the greatest zombie movie ever made.
    Tom Savini is probably better qualified at doing stuff like this than a lot of so-called 'horror' directors at the moment.
     
  7. mookboy

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    Erm they weren't zombies in 28 Days Later. In fact they weren't even dead.

    From what I've seen of the movie, it looks like theres some confusion over what a zombie and a vampire is, as the zombies seem to have inheritted a lot of their characteristics. I'm all for revisionist horror cinema, reinventing the myths and screwing with the audiances expectations, but theres only so far you can go. Certain things are just basically frightening, and will get the pulse racing no matter what.

    The 'zombie' is one of those horror creations that does just that. It's the slow, unstoppable, relentless pursuit of fresh meat. The decaying flesh. The fact that you can only stop 'em with a bullet in the head or decapitation. Otherwise no matter what you do, they'll just keep on comin'. Now the single zombie isn't too bad, but the horde of zombies is damn right terrifying. Once you take away that basic foundation of the zombie thang, and you start pitting single, quick witted, intelligent zombies against people, then its just not the same. If you wanna get technical, you're into the territory of the ghouls and nightcrawlers. I'm gonna watch the movie regardless, but as a bit of a horror fan, it all seems like a step in the wrong direction to me.
     
  8. El_JimBob

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    The point i was making about 28 days later was that it was itself a nice spin on the zombie movie, even tho they werent zombies per se.

    Mind u, you could call most of the general public in the UK 'zombies', so i think those extras in the movie did their job remarkably well :)

    It was a good move and a good way to progress the genre, considering some of the dire spanish and italian movies that pretty much buried it in the 70s and 80s.

    Its called 'keeping things interesting'. If we want the horror business to continue, it needs to evolve. Look at that piece of **** movie 'Cabin Fever' - basically an old school purist making the kind of movie HE used to watch, instead of something we've never seen before. Remember, peeps today are used to a new style of cinema, and sticking to 'been there, done that' simply wont allow the horror genre to progress to the status it used to enjoy.

    Hope u see my point of view.
     
  9. hypocrisy86

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    I just saw it while ago
    i couldnt get in at 2:50 cus i had no ID, so i went back home and got my Passport and got in at 5:20 hmm the movie isnt like the original...
    they did what i call "Modernize" the movie, remake em and **** em all up. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Mr. Roboto

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    I never saw the original, but I thought it was damn kick ***. Ving Rhames is my favorite. The guy is simply the best at everything he does.

    But seriously, the film in an entirety was a great change to the horror genre. Making the zombies faster kind of makes it a more serious threat immediately instead of being "oh no they're coming, but at a slow speed so I can still run away." Just because they can run doesn't mean they're smarter, as you notice they still can't open a door, they just smash it.

    Still, a wonderful new horror flick.
     
  11. 1st time modder

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    my favorite part of the remake is when they are sniping famous people from the roof. :hehe:
     
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    Skutbag What's a Dremel?

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    I reckon the zombies running about makes more sense than all of em just moaning etc- They can still run because they've only just been infected or whatever and all the flesh hasn't rotted away or anything- makes more sense than just bite- now you're shafted.
     
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    I stand by everything I said about the stupid turbo zombies, but I just got back from seeing it and it was a ****ing great movie. Seemed to have a lot less of everything in it than the original, less gore, less all round zombie action really, but it was still a blast. I especially liked the way the whole armageddon atmosphere was created with the news footage and the ariel shots of the city in ruins.

    Note: do not leave during the credits or you will miss the end of the film.
     
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    ....and all is right with the world again.
    Gonna see it tomorrow morning sometime - just had my appetite whetted by the full 9 mins opening sequence shown on channel 4 tonite. Looks like it will rule :)
     
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    Fantastic 10/10 :thumb:
     
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    vaiomutatorman What's a Dremel?

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    Saw it last week, loved it to death, 14/10. I actually like the turbo coked out zombies. Its a needed kick in the ass to the horror movie genre, which has morphed into crap like Freddy Vs Jason (even though I liked it, but thats cuz it was friggin funny) It certainly messed with your head. Like the little girl at the beginning. I was expecting her to do the typical shamble across the room thing while muttering "brrrainnnsss" but instead she surged across the room and bit the fu*k out of hubby. I nearly flew out of my chair. And the zombies still arent smart, theyre the same stupid zombies as before. They cant figure out how to open doors. Spoiler alert, if you havnt seen it dont read the next sentence

    They didnt know how to get into the ammo store untill the dog showed them. They couldnt figure out that they could get into the mall using the sewer.

    End spoiler

    But they were quick, and it was cool. And yes, the whole armageddon undertones were awsome as hell. The movie created so much tension. I loved it.
     
  17. mookboy

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    Let me clarify. It was great movie but still inferior to the original. It just seemed like a suspicious cop out that they skimmed over why the zombies headed for the Mall, whereas in the original it had a lot more significance and comical effect.

    I still prefer shambling groaning stiffs, to hissing sprinting ghouls though.
     
  18. El_JimBob

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    Saw it this afternoon - definitely an 8/10 movie. Sure, not a patch on the original but certainly an inspired and often excellent homage.
    Something that no-one has mentioned yet was the soundtrack. Someone worked hard on this one, probably as the original 'Dawn....' soundtrack was so inspired. It kept the action tense, and the inclusion of the Johnny Cash track and the Richard Cheese cover of Disturbed's 'Down with the Sickness' contributed to a beautiful comedy 'quiet before the storm' interlude.
    And i loved, loved, loved the camcorder cutscenes in the end credits - very downbeat :)
    I will be going back to see it again pronto.

    Surely, considering the success of this movie, we wont have to wait long now for Romero to start his planned 'Twilight of the Dead' venture.
    Im waiting with baited breath.
     
  19. I'm_Not_A_Monster

    I'm_Not_A_Monster Hey, eat this...

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    :jawdrop: Romero's doing another one... :clap:

    the sniping of the famous people is great,
    "Write down Rosie!"
    "Naw, Give Him A Hard Target"

    the fundamental flaw of zombie movies is: "why now?" they should have an intro like "The Stand" ~ Stephen King; gov't installation, virus leak, yadda, yadda, yadda, ZOMBIES!!!

    i almost couldn't see the whol ending because of a drinking-too-much-coke emergency. i have a cold, and if i started coughing... :worried:

    i like the new one as much as the old one, but in a different way. it's kinda like comparing apples to oranges. the old one is great because the zombies were slow but they were unstoppable, the new one is great because of the fast-paced action.
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    little bit of trivia, the preacher guy (in the new one) on TV that talks about "when hell is full..." is from the original movie.
     
  20. mookboy

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    Actually half the cast of the original version are in there somewhere. Although I did have to suffer the comicstore nerds sniggering all the way through the TV preacher sequence, in a sort of 'knowing' way.

    Johnny Cash's 'The Man Comes Around' was a really good choice for opening credits. As for the Cheese track, inspired. Shame the original nu-metal version was then played at the end anyway...
     

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