News Dell announces new, improved 24inch widescreen

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/05/10/dell_new_24_widescreen/

 

$999 vs £825

Still, HDCP support is cool (i guess) and it looks a lot nicer than the 2405 I think.

 

Errrr? When I wrote the bloody article it was 949 quid!!!! How did you see 825? Hrrrmmm....

It's ok though...if you really want one, I'll ship it to ya

 

I've seen a couple of mentions of this on forums....people seem very unimpressed. Apparently it's not nearly as good as the 2405 in terms of picture quality, and i've seen photographs that back this up. See postings here:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.co...tart=350&sid=41a5d3ddffb01b70a8fe0fa2bc8402b0

Can't wait to actually see an English review of it.

 

its resolution appears to be having problems, i wouldnt jump into buying it since people are saying performance isnt as good as the last model

 

yeah, i just looked around carefully and this looks substandard for an expensive monitor - bluring of text etc. i bought a 244t in the end.

 

Hope it drives down the cost of the last gen 24". Im sure the encryption will be cracked soon enough so I can watch HD on my current setup.

 

Was done ages ago mate, it just wasn't released because it was done by some proper boffins and they were scared of being sued. Be sure that by the time its a problem, there'll be a one-click solution.

Anyway, these widescreen 24 inchers are very desirable, I even felt compelled enough to go check out prices of screens on Scan, and then i felt compelled by the prices to close that window. Very nice, but very expensive.

 

The dell site doesn't seem to mention the viewing angle specs....I hope they're as good as the old 2405 model.

The newest 17 and 19" panels have these weak 130 degree viewing angles compared to something like +/-88 on my old Ultrasharp 1703 model. I think the new ones get faster pixel response, but its sad when the viewing angle is now on par with cheap-o monitors.

Also: I don't find the 2407 listed on the US site anywhere yet...I always figured new stuff would come out in the US first since Dell is a US company. Guess I was wrong on that. Wonder what the price (and the upcoming sales) will be like in US$ though.

 

"Therefore, those people might be a little annoyed to find out that the model has been revised to now provide HDCP support for HD-DVD and Blu-Ray playback."

Nope.. couldn't care less . I'll use the TV to watch DVDs If I do upgrade, it won't be because it's HD ready, but because it's better. A head to head with the 2405 would be interesting. I wonder if that IS the only difference. If so... then I really fail to see the point in upgrading, or paying another £300.

 

Totally worth it. I bought it knowing full well it's not hdcp compliant, and it doesn't bother me. I'll use ffdshow for now to upscale my SD conent and not deal with MORE drm, and not pay five hundred plus dollars for a new player that'll cost a third of that in a year. Paid $800 for mine shipped, and I'm even happier with it than the 2005fpw (which I was incredibly thrilled about).

The whole HDCP thing just bugs me though. It's nothing but forcing people to buy new equipment, as it couldn't possibly actually protect high-bandwidth digital content (as per the name)

 

My thoughts exactly, I'd love one of these, but the price is just silly. I'm happy to have 2 19" monitors for a fraction of the price.

 

you can get the 2405 on ebay brand new for around 550 inc vat and delivery. bargin if you ask me. i have one and will be buying another very soon!

 

Agree with that - I've been thinking more and more recently that HDCP is just a ploy to lock you into certain equipment to view your legitimately purchased HD material. Ironically, non-legitimate material will (presumably) not use the flag that tells the player to downscale to SD if a non-HDCP monitor is connected.

The reason for this is simple: you'd have to be off your nut to try to rip Blu-ray or HD-DVD discs by capturing the decompressed bitstream between player and monitor - you then either have the problem of storing it losslessly (which isn't really an option at all - 1080p = 1080*1920*24(bits per pixel)*30(frames per second)*3600(seconds per hour) = 5.37*10^12 bits/hour = 626 GB/hour uncompressed - impractical even if you could get 5:1 lossless compression, which I doubt), or recompressing it lossily, inevitably losing quality. The only sensible way to rip a Blu-ray or HD-DVD disc is to break the AACS and get the compressed bitstream directly off the disc, enabling you to make a perfect digital copy (minus DRM of course). Now that players and discs are publicly available, I predict this will be done in a matter of months.

I also predict that the next-gen equivalent to remote control region unlocking will be remote control HDCP breaking. Within months of release, players will be released with information leaked onto the internet about how to hack them to output non-HDCP high-def signals from protected content. I know for sure that, if I had been an early adopter of LCD TVs and had purchased a screen capable of displaying 720p or better but which had no HDCP compliant HDMI interface, I would be mightily annoyed at having to buy a new TV to go with my new Blu-Ray / HD-DVD player just to be able to enjoy my movies in high def. As such, a player which could be modified to output high-def to my non-HDCP TV would be a very tempting proposition.

For anyone that's interested, the theory behing smashing HDCP wide open can be found here, together with an explanation as to the author's reluctance to do further work for fear of angering the wrathful Gods and being smited by the mighty power of the DCMA.

 

Price is pretty high, however if you get the Dell Dimension 1100 desktop system and configure it to include the 2407, it comes to £736 and you get a free PC

 

hahahaahaha nice find, eek.

 

is this better than the Samsung SyncMaster 244T???

review > http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=2662

 

Hi,

As you can tell (Hey, I've got one post) I'm new to the Bit-Tech forums. Those of you who have been to the Widescreen Gaming Forum will know I'm the Senior Moderator there (could I advertise more? - Don't answer that, please... )...

As of this time, the 2407 doesn't really seem all that much better than the 2405 - it's got several problems that have made headlines on the Inquirer (sorry, I don't have a link right now) - and as many people have pointed out, it's a lot more expensive. I believe many people have adopted a 'wait and see' approach to the 2407, or are opting for the 2405, which is currently going for far cheaper than it used to.

For any who are interested in the range of widescreen monitors availble, the widescreen gaming forum has a User Reviews section....

Cheers,
Paradigm

 

Para: What 20+" TFT do you recommend then? I heard the NECs are good.

Oh, and welcome

Stick a link in your sig mate.

 

Thanks for the welcome, Bindi.

As for what 20" widescreen I recommend? Um. I've only got experience of the Dell 2005, which I really like and have had absolutely no problems with (no, Dell was not aware of who or what I was - like they would have cared - at the time I ordered... ) They were, however, when I ordered my 2405's, as I got a special deal on them...

However, the NEC and the BenQ 20" widescreens are both well recieved at the WSGF. The Viewsonic 20"er is also quite a good one, from all reports.

I've now stuck a link in my sig. Hope it's alright.

(I really like the Bit-Tech smileys... )