Displays Dell S2209W 1080P Display

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  1. Denis_iii

    Denis_iii What's a Dremel?

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    What do you guys think of this monitor? I'm kinda sold onit, looks to be the best 22inch 1080P monitor currently available as Viewsonics and other offerings come with builtin speakers which immediately turns me off.....though one day I do hope a monitor will be released with cracking built in speaker or ale pioneer kuro a outstanding sound bar attachment.....any one heard the dell soundbar?


    anyways for the most indepth technical review ever...
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=38dlu1JNR3I
     
  2. Burnout21

    Burnout21 Is the daddy!

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    The dell sound bar is a piece of crap, tinny and lacks bass, which is to be expected due to its dimensions.
     
  3. Denis_iii

    Denis_iii What's a Dremel?

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    good to have that confirmed, i'm going creative t20's
     
  4. Krikkit

    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    If the T20's are anything like as good as the T40's (and I'm assured they are very good), then that'll be a good purchase.
     
  5. azrael-

    azrael- I'm special...

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    I just can't get enthusiastic about TN-based monitors. Especially widescreen monitors. If it has to be full HD then there's a 22" from Lenovo/IBM that might be interesting, the Lenovo L220X.
     
  6. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    i've been eyeing the 24inch version of Dell 16:9 monitors....... looks like a bargain.

    but i really not sure about the actual viewing space, it may turn out to be shorter than standard 20inch (in your case) which will be rather difficult to watch and play 4:3 games
     
  7. Denis_iii

    Denis_iii What's a Dremel?

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    thanks but waaaaaaay to expensive for me and 1920x1200 not 1080p
     
  8. Denis_iii

    Denis_iii What's a Dremel?

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    i'm going to take the dive, and my thinking is its 22inch with vertical pixels of 1080 hence will get more vertical space then 22incher 1680x1050 as thats vertical space is 1050

    and the bonus of it being HD movies/ps3/xbox360's same res
     
  9. Burnout21

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    know how dumb that sounds....

    plus 1080p is only really effective for films on a screen greater than 42in, any smaller and its wasted resolution as the human eye cant resolve the pixels at that density.
     
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    In 5 years you'll look back and laugh that you thought that (like 1GB ram :p)
     
  11. Igniseus

    Igniseus What's a Dremel?

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    That's nonsense. It depends what distance your sat at. I've sampled the same movie clips in 720p and 1080p on my BenQ 24" and I can immediately tell quite big differences, sat a bit further away than normal PC viewing distance. Of course, if your sitting normal TV distance away, on a couch for example, the difference will almost certainly be unnoticeable.
     
  12. Denis_iii

    Denis_iii What's a Dremel?

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    you know how dumb it sounds to think 1920x1200 is 1080p? monitor has to scale resolution when outputting from a HD source ale xbox360 at 1080 and LCD scaling is **** so having native 1080p is sweet


    "plus 1080p is only really effective for films on a screen greater than 42in, any smaller and its wasted resolution as the human eye cant resolve the pixels at that density."

    know how dumb that sounds? i'll tell you, really f'ing dumb, you don't sit 10inchs away from a 42inch screen numb nuts, and by your reasoning wtf have a 24inch monitor at 1080p or 1920x1200.
     
  13. Burnout21

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    1080p on a 1920x1200 just adds a black strip top and bottom, so no scaling required.

    Optical resolution and Visual acuity

    Because the human on average can only resolve at most of 1 arc minute, the problem of wasted resolution still remains.

    Sat point blank to the screen and yes you could count the pixels, however if like me you prefer to sit back and watch a film usually i am 2m away from the screen or more so 22in @ 1080p is wasted and may aswell be 720p.

    this is why 32in TV's are all 720p because there viewed at an average range of 3m and thus 1080p is found in screens above 42in.
     
  14. azrael-

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    Actually, full HD content will not be scaled on 1920x1200 panels. Instead there'd be a black band at the top and at the bottom of the screen, each 60 pixels high.

    The only reason for 1920x1080 monitors is to minimize production costs. Manufacturers can use the same glass substrate for both monitors and tvs.
     
  15. Denis_iii

    Denis_iii What's a Dremel?

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    exactly my point, loosing real estate, and if you have a descent display you will have 1:1 options, stretch, or stretch retaining aspect ratio
    so be happy with your 1920x1200 and black bands, really draws you into the movie doesn't it but all this is beside the point
    .....how about bringing your smarts to check out the Dell S2209W
     
  16. Burnout21

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    1080p content isn't stretched and it keeps its aspect ratio all on a 1920x1200, anyway the black banding seems to fit films rather well, seeing it bezel to bezel just dosen't seem right. Hence the cinema add two black strips.

    If you understood the so called 'smarts' as you put it, then i wouldn't have to explain this again. When viewing such resolution on a screen like that Dell S2209W at a small distance like you would when watching a film, your eye cant make use of all that resolution that is to be offered.

    the easiest way to explain is if i put two posts in the ground 1m apart and got to you walk away from them, at some point you'll only be able to see just one post due to the resolving power of the human eye. now apply that to a high density of pixels.

    Now there will be some wasted resolution i expect in that screen from the average viewing distance that i was applying ~2m.
     
  17. Denis_iii

    Denis_iii What's a Dremel?

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    my viewing distance will be 30cm+- as will be gaming at 1080p on pc and xbox360 and ps3 if it see's a price drop and black bands piss me off when gaming
    as most movie run at a wider res then 16x9 will still have them beautiful black bands
    and when watching movies not fussed about high res, xvid/divx is fine by me, I like 1080p as can plug in anything and am good to go, the dell scales 4:3 inputs to so don't have to worry about that being blown
    1920x1200 is to high a res for say a 17inch display, don't see a difference when watchin films/tv but have seen 17inch laptops with lower resolution and I can see the pixels, whereas on mine I can't as they so f'ing small
    but again this is beside the point, I want 1080p because I want no hassles hooking up a xbox360
    and monitors do stretch/scale the input, mates xbox 360 was full screen on his 22inch monitor with 1680x1050, this was prior to xbox's supporting that res, and you could see the quality drop because of the stretching of the image

    but this is all beside teh point, I don't want to argue about resolution, i don't want to argue at all. Just wanted opinions on the Dell 1080p monitor and if there are better 22inch 1080P options out there
    I don't like the Hyundai or the Viewsonic though am waiting on Bit-tech's review to confirm things.
     
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