News Deus-Ex: Human Revolution site hacked

Looks like someone mastered their computers skill.

 

So not anon. Due to the sony hackers using them as a scapegoat they now seem to be the default scapegoat for any hacks and easy to use to divert attention.

 

Well, I would have thought the FBI and many other official bodies are investigating the Sony crime. Will be interesting to see if anyone ever actually get nailed for it.

 

Seems to be the line from all the sony haters.

It seems if you get robbed now, you allowed yourself to get robbed and your to blame rather than the actual criminals.

I know its stupid but it seems to be the way these sony haters think and I find it funny. They are probably the same people that think copyright infringement is right and not wrong.

 

I sincerely doubt this was any organised part of Anon. However people need to stop acting like Anonymous are a group which can be responsible for things. Anon is a crowd to which anyone can belong to, which sometimes briefly converges upon certain causes, all the time gaining and losing members who agree or disagree with said cause. Anon is everyone, and so to blame Anon is as good as saying "We don't know who did it".

Which guys? Which leader of anonymous told you that he/she believed anonymous is invincible? Who is this "they" you refer to?

You clearly have a fundamental lack of understanding of what anonymous is. Anon has done a lot of good things in its history. It's also done a lot of horrible things. Stop expecting morality, stop expecting consistency. It is not a specific group of people with specific goals. It is anyone (or rather, lots of anyone's) doing whatever the hell they happen to feel like at that specific moment, and sometimes what those people feel like converges into something happening.

edit: Not that it was Anon who did the major PSN hack, but Sony got a kick in the teeth from Anon for sueing Geohot and just generally not being very nice about the whole allowing people to use their PS3's however they damn well please thing.

 

That comparison doesn't really fly. After all you've entrusted Sony et al your data for safekeeping. A better analogy would be a bank with a simple lock on the door and a walk-in safe loaded with cash getting robbed. Although I'd be mad at the robbers I'd definitely blame the bank for not taking proper care of my valuables.

You're bringing up copyright infringements. In a strange way, there really is a connection there. Seems like many companies, especially in the entertainment sector, expect politics to do their job for them. Instead of "there's an app for that" it's "there's a law for that". Best example is the DMCA. Instead of coming up with proper and non-intrusive copy protection mechanisms as opposed to those half-assed and sometimes extremely intrusive attempts they've made they just make sure that attempting to circumvent their protections is illegal. This is just meant as an example. Prersonally, I'd rather they just dropped the whole copy protection/DRM stuff. But I digress...

 

"but in the meantime you can watch the latest video"

Jebus i hope thats a PS2 video....

 

yeah that video is aweful.. on a console too- they might as well have showed burn the rope!

 

The problem is that it's not black and white what's good safety and what's not until after an attempt. Your train of thinking always blames the bank, anything which fails is immediately "not taking proper care" because it failed to protect your valuables, be it a $5 padlock or high security vault. You can always point the finger and say "well, you should have done even more".


On a more pedantic note, securing cash is actually not a huge priority. The money's insured and the FBI tends to make sure no one gets away with bank robbery anyway.

 

Fact. people take things that aren't theirs.
Fact. the easier it is to take, the more likely it is to be taken.
Fact. leaving unencrypted data on a relatively unsecured server = data being taken.

There is no point in trying to stop it, it happens deal with it.
it doesn't matter in the slightest that yo are pissed at it..

The past is a memory, the future an expectation.

 

This was exactly my first thought. Even before I opened the link I was already like, 'yet another company screwup conviniently blamed on Anonymous.' After opening the link here my first thought after a quick scan of responses was, 'whatever became of Innocent Until Proven Guilty'?
Damn near every one of you people automatically assumed that Anonymous' were the ones behind this. No proof whatsoever. Just some lame ass excuse from one of the companies that you regularly deride for flat out lying to and ripping off the consumers.
I suppose all you morons also wholeheartedly believe in Reality Programs, as well!
You're all nothing but a slavering mob of drooling dumbasses! Presumption is the hallmark of the Status Quo.

 

Wow, you are clearly superior to almost everyone in the world. I wish I could be enlightened as you.

 

Whoa man, put down the friggin torch. I never implicated anonymous or any other hacker "group" nor do I give a flying frak about how "righteous" so many of these people, and their supporters, think they are. I was just making a general observation that these dudes (self-righteous hackers) go around the 'net causing trouble on the basis of some perceived corporate injustice that is more or less inconsequential, and that someday, someone, is going to cross a line and learn that they are in fact not untouchable nor immune from the law, nor can they hide behind their computer screens forever.

Why? Because "they" said so? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the logic is that we can't implicate "Anonymous" on the basis that they aren't an organized group and just a bunch of people doing whatever they feel like at the moment. Using that logic how can we believe that it wasn't "Anonymous" just because someone, who may or may not have been anyone with any say in the matter, released a statement saying that it wasn't them?

I'm a strong believer that the accuser needs to prove the guilt of the accused and not the other way around, so I'm not about to automatically deem anyone guilty of any crime. It's just the idea that we should believe a statement that comes out of that group, or from any individual that may or may not be a part of "them" that is completely ridiculous. None of these groups have any credibility in my book.

As far as what I think about Sony... I don't want to get into the habit of blaming the victim, because Sony is just as much of a victim as we are. They will likely spend massive amounts of money fixing their network. I've heard they need to rebuild it from the ground up. Pour out a round for the IT slaves that are toiling away at that 24/7. However, they are definitely responsible for the security of their own servers and for the data on those servers. Whether or not they should be held liable for that is something I'd rather leave to the lawyers to figure out.

I think the fact that they are going to provide free identity theft protection to every user who wants it is a pretty good step in the right direction. I actually feel more bad for the developers who are relying on PSN sales to feed their families or who have games that are almost entirely built for online play, like the new SOCOM game.

For us, the worst that can happen is a minor inconvenience. I had to get a new debit card, and anyone who has a PSN account with a card on there should do the same. Took a few days for it to come in. The developers out there who have games exclusively on PSN are having their lively hoods ruined right now. I'd say if anyone has a right to sue Sony, it's them. They pay licensing fees on the basis that Sony is providing a stable platform for their software. I'm sure these companies would have no problem proving that this Sony downtime is costing them a ton of money.

 

I can't help but think, people are purposely pointing the blame at Anonymous.

 

It's not perceived corporate injustice, it is corporate justice, and very often corporate rights too. It's also very often to do with freedom of speech, and sometimes punishing people who are nasty to cats. They have already crossed every line, some anons have been arrested, I don't think any of them think they are untouchable. Anons just sometimes do what they feel is right because it's the best way they have of counter-acting a wrong which is being carried out.

Well, my logic being that anyone sophisticated to carry out an operation such as the PSN hack, in order to steal data, knows it is going to receive a lot of attention from the law, and as such isn't realistically going to leave the name of their (dis)organisation sitting pointlessly in a server. Anons have never done that before, I don't see why they'd have done it this time. However it is common to leave the name of another group or person when you want to redirect attention.

Right. Given that the main attack on PSN seems to have been money or just hacker-fun orientated I wouldn't myself go linking it to any particular cause. However the preceding PSN DDos that Anons were carrying out was quite simply to remind Sony that they shouldn't be telling individual citizens in society what they can and can not do with their own property. It's a lesson I doubt Sony will learn this time, but Anon will continue to punish companies who try to do this.

 

There are much better targets than taking down a network belonging to 70million gamers, don't you think?

 

If you want to carry out a revenge attack, you hit someone where it hurts.

 

The intentions of Anonymous do at least seem to have some good intention and morale standing, their methods may be questionable tho their cause is an admirable one.

If Square Enix's web source code has been taken then they clearly had poor security on their web server, which is a lesson for them to learn by and improve on. Being a large company they should know better and be able to invest suitably in the security of their own data and that of customers.

On a brighter note, the hackers have inadvertently given Deus Ex a little extra free publicity, so not all bad

 

Wouldn't it be funny if these hackers turned out to be from North Korea, doing this to put two fingers up at commercialism. Would their fanboys on here still praise them?

 

North Korea is still functioning on audio tapes and VCR. They're not really at the highly advanced hacking stage of technology yet.

And: Yes.