Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Lizard, 22 Jun 2011.
Just hope ISP's aren't planning on passing the cost on of implementing this to their customers.
Agree. We are addicts who need constant supply of entertainment at any cost.
I don't infringe anyone's copyright, so should be worry free, but this just reminds me of the anti terror spying measures they brought in then councils were using them to track people suspected of dog fouling and parking infringements. This isn't paranoia it actually happened.
There is a way to sabotage this scheme. Generate as much traffic as you can between as many different nodes as possible. How many gig can you generate in a day? The monitoring won't keep up, the ISPs will go bananas and the government will be be held responsible for a country-wide clogging of every fat pipe and backbone running, provided we get enough people in on it. Screw lulzsec, we can do this ourselves and there ain't a damn thing anyone could ever charge us with.
Here's an in-depth examination of the "You need only worry if you have something to hide" argument. It's quite good, should provide insight and retorts for everyone who wishes to fight this fallacious statement:
Indeed, they can use the cover of anti-copyright to pave their way into using the tools in the proposed legislation for other means. It's a dark time for the net as it has been slipping out of the 'control' of the corporations and governments then into the hands of the people, however we clearly cannot be trusted to run our net they need to 'protect us' by prosecuting us.
I can't wait to hear the reports of people watching stuff on youtube then receiving these letters confused as to what they've done. The material's copyrighted therefore they're technically infringing copyright by watching without buying a license to view the material.
LOL You forgot the LASCAD London Ambulance Service system fiasco
It's always entertaining to read about government IT project failures. Check out these two articles :
This can only fail, there will always be a way of pirating stuff, its always been the way ever since media has been around.
Plus I dont particuarly like the govs track record on anything IT based lol
Private torrent sites ( there's thousands)
Proxy addresses running between my ISP and china or some place
Didnt china try and stop google took pirates 20mins to bypass
So many ways to avoid this sorta stuff
I feel for the ISPs who will have to pay millions to try and contain this
I just hope the ISP's don't have to monitor ALL traffic to catch people pirating. I don't want my bank account details logged. Or my Paypal account. In fact I don't want anything I do online logged and stored.
Imagine if they logged all the porn you've watched, or the conversations you were having with the person you are seeing behind your partners back. What a wonderful pile of things to blackmail someone with. Only takes one break-in by some hacker group. That or a dishonest employee.
well big brother is here its not enought that the watch us with the cctv in the citys they have to know what we do on the net.......... So i am thinking of living in a diffrent country
Tis a black day.
let us not forget this was dodgy mandleson and the previous failed and shamed labour party who hurried this through weeks before they knew they would get booted out of government in the elections with their tails between their legs.
thats a bit nieve dont you think?
electricity bills up 10% to pay for the new offshore windfarm springs to mind, will they reduce the prices once the cheaper windfarms are online? give over.
Yahoo did a news story about the most pirated films.
Avatar was downloaded 16.68 million times. Id like to see how they came to these figures. Total d/l's of the top ten - 104.87 million.
This is massive disappointment.
Now I'm curious if this loop hole the parliament has opened can be used for other purposes such as suspicion of other crimes where the evidence is purely circumstantial, if perhaps acquiring chat logs out of context or emails will be enough to get someone convicted or at least portrayed as a villain. Donâ€™t forget if someone has a story printed about them saying he is evil because of abc and then later there is a reasonable explanation that clears his name this generally is too little too late the damage has been made and peopleâ€™s opinions and relationships with that person have been irreversibly damaged.
For everyone who says that only pirates need to fear that might be true, initially... but these sort of things always seem to act as a cover behind some just cause such as stoping copy right infringement to cover ulterior motives, this will go further so that the majority of people can be monitored for whatever their reason is, there are heaps of conspiracy theories out their Iâ€™m not going to fuel that fire.
But I do believe my private chats, emails, internet activity should remain my business, just because others commit crime doesnâ€™t mean the entire public should be treated as criminals and monitored.
For me this is just as bad as all my telephone conversations being recorded by my phone provider to only be accessed by court order because terrorists\criminals use phones to organise attacks, I doubt people would say that well only terrorists would need to fear this monitoring no there would be an uproar, well this is just as bad for me as all my communication not done face to face is via the internet.
This communication method is young in comparison and does have an exponentially higher potential then the phone, good and bad. It is natural to approach it with fear and think we have to put up these sort of policies but I would like to think that people would not want to fork over their right to privacy to help fine people who download content illegally.
Treating everyone as a criminal to prevent crime just isnâ€™t right we shouldnâ€™t be bringing up our kids saying donâ€™t commit crime because youâ€™ll get caught, we should be helping them identify the difference between right & wrong, so that through this nurturing they appreciate doing the right thing is the reward, in that it builds strong character.
Teach with treats not the stick or whatever the saying is.
Ah wells there is my rant on the topic no it means nothing but this just really p1ss3d me off.
Also sorry I suck at putting down my thoughts in writing just wanted to try.
No they will just absorb it and have their stock drop. Well there goes gramps retirement fund...
So yea the cost will and always is passed on. It is the same as taxes they do not do anything other than increase costs by shifting around where the money is.
Don't forget about the HMRC cock up causing loads of people to have to pay more tax despite the fact that it was HMRC at fault.
The Governments record when it comes to anything remotely connected to IT is beyond pathetic.
What I really want to know is; where on earth will the funding come from for a bill like this? Obviously the ISP's will have to foot some of the bill but there will no be "incentives" from the government in return.
The country is in a dire financial situation yet here we have idiot MP's working on a pointless, unenforcable piece of legislation when they could actually be doing something useful..... actually who am I kidding.....
Can anyone guestimate what the bandwidth usage of the Whole UK is?
For what I believe will be a HUMONGOUS number, this could only be feasible if they monitored select user groups.
Imagine the storage that would be needed to keep all of this on record.
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