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Education DNA checking recommendations

Discussion in 'General' started by Pete J, 16 Dec 2018.

  1. Pete J

    Pete J RIP Teelzebub

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    Hi all,

    I'm curious about my ancestry. Anyone used these DNA checking places before? Anyone have any recommendations?

    I wonder if I use more than one if I'll get the same results?
     
  2. silk186

    silk186 Derp

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    As I understand it, DNA checking has two components. The first is sequencing which will be the same, the second is access to a database for comparison which will be different.
     
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  3. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Make sure you opt out of them sharing it with GSK and the like.
     
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  4. ferret141

    ferret141 Well-Known Member

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    I thought the only terms were that they could sell your DNA to whomever?
     
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  5. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    DNA services are a bit of a double edged sword.

    they can provide some insight in to immediate lost family etc but the further you go back it becomes massviely inaccurate. Anyone who tells you they were related to vikings kings etc is agood exmaple of nonesense.

    you dont have to go that far back in human history for everyone to have a releative ! its scary

    https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/all-europeans-are-related-if-you-go-back-just-1-6C9826523 (not the best link but you will get the jist)

    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/family-dna-ancestry-tests-review-comparison
     
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  6. Guest-56605

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    1986 was when DNA was first used in a UK criminal investigation by Dr Alec Jeffreys for example - to be using DNA ancestry services seems to be rather pointless as databases are still in their infancy.

    Old school family tree research seems to yield far more accurate and conclusive findings
     
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  7. Fizzban

    Fizzban Man of Many Typos

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    Sure, give away the base information of your very being to a corporate entity. I'm sure they will be completely ethical in their dealings with your info.


    [Sarcasam]
     
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  8. Pete J

    Pete J RIP Teelzebub

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    Hmm. Much to ponder.

    Yeah, seems the case. I think a while ago, my aunt did some series family research. I know one side of my family can be traced back to the Normans coming over in 1066.I'll give her a call.

    Hehe. True true. I imagine a scenario where one day I get a knock on the door and open it to find my clone pointing a gun at me.
     
  9. silk186

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    I imagine a time when you I get a knock on the door and its the policy because I had a cup of coffee at the scene of a crime.

    Police used free genealogy database to track Golden State Killer suspect, investigator says
    Police can now use millions more people’s DNA to find criminals
    Your DNA Is Out There. Do You Want Law Enforcement Using It?
     
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  10. Zoon

    Zoon Hunting Wabbits since the 80s

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    Pretty much literally the plot to an Arnold Schwarzenegger film!
     
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  11. edzieba

    edzieba Virtual Realist

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    DNA ancestry is not just based on database comparisons to previously sequenced DNA. There's Mitochondrial DNA (mDNA) which traces maternally, and with known markers can trace routes back through tens to hundreds of generations. There is also Y-DNA (Y chromasome) which functions similarly for paternal lines.
     
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  12. Nealieboyee

    Nealieboyee Packaging Master!

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    Reading the thread title, my first thought was "Oooh someone may have knocked another someone up".
     
  13. cjmUK

    cjmUK Old git.

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    My mother in law is interested in genealogy so she paid about £80 for DNA analysis; what they 'sold' her was not what was delivered. The conclusions were so vague as to be laughable - I think they concluded she was human, which was reassuring, and that her ancestors were likely from some part of Western/Northern Europe - no **** sherlock, she's caucasian. There was no linking back to Mavis from Basingstoke and Harold from New Zealand who have DNA records that indicate they might be related. This might be because the whole thing was a con, or it might be that so few people have used the service that there are no DNA records to check against.

    But as others have suggested, the whole idea is a privacy and security time bomb... How long before DNA records can be used nefariously against you by bad actors? You can change your passwords if they get hacked, and you can get cards cancelled and re-issued, but you cannot change your DNA (without the help of lethal amounts of radiation), so why offering it up to some unknown organisation?
     
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  14. Sentinel-R1

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    It's the modern day gypsy/crystal ball scenario. People hear or read into it what they want to believe. It's often incredibly vague and generic at best. At worst, it's a stab in the dark and thanks for your cash, chump.

    Some services also offer to identify likely weakness to particular conditions or diseases, which medical professionals have vehemently contradicted.

    I'd spend my money on enjoying life now, not on a gimmick in the vain hope of linking me to billions of people resigned to the annals of history.
     
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  15. Pete J

    Pete J RIP Teelzebub

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    I wish.Been a bit dry on that front lately.
     
  16. edzieba

    edzieba Virtual Realist

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    Mighthaps A be somewhat related to B?
     

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