Electronics Do PWM controllers make fans go ..

Discussion in 'Modding' started by Guest-16, 1 Mar 2003.

  1. Guest-16

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    "RRRR...RRRRRR...RRRRR...RRRRR...RRRR" ???

    I know it depends on the interval, but if say, it was turned down to a 7v equivilient?
     
  2. acrimonious

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    It depends on that fan, but at 7v equiv, no i shouldn't think so.

    Only at very slow speeds do they start to make noises and eventually stall.
     
  3. Guest-16

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    kk, 120mm panaflo LA1s stall around 6ish though iirc :s i think ill build one and find out tbh, best way before i go build a full bus of em.
     
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    120mm, thats some serious wattage, i hope you know your tranistors well!
     
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    Nope, i know sweeeeet FA bout transistors! \o/ :waah: me panaflos only kick out 3W last time i checked though.
     
  6. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    Them's fones, not fans. :lol:

    A lot depends on the fan and pwm frequency you use.

    I've a bought Coolermaster ball-bearing one that makes a fast clicking noise and others I've built grumble or growl at low revs.

    Mounting firmly in a case will help reduce the noise, in fact you may not notice it with a cpu fan whining away in the same system.

    You can build a nice 3-channel controller with a 25p LM339 quad comparator and 3 20p 2N2222A transistors... my next project. ;)
     
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    My case is literally silent, so any obscure noise *will* be heard :(

    I'd like to see that 3 channel controller once youve done ;) ive got a 4 fan jobbie designed here.
     
  8. Guest-16

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    frikkin typical! as usual my circuit DOESNT work after i build it FFS :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: i hate electronics :(:(
     
  9. eaterofpies

    eaterofpies What's a Dremel?

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    know the feeling its when u spend 8 hours on a college project then connect the power backwards by accident right at the end :( thats even worse
     
  10. Yo-DUH_87

    Yo-DUH_87 Who you calling tiny?

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    Yeah, I spent half a day trying to figure out what was wrong with my circuit, when I had just put the chip in backwards :blush:

    Don't you love electronics ;)
     
  11. Guest-16

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    well... it changed the cap round and it worked .. sort of. The fan was massively underpowered and barely turned even though its on a dedicated 12v rail :( i turned up the pot and it went a tad faster but still it went "vrr...vrr...vrr...vrr...vrr...vrr...vrr...vrr...vrr...vrr..." which is not good.

    Anyhoo i resoldered in the cap and now it frikkin doesnt work again WTF?! sodding pwm 555.. **** piece of crap :grr:
     
  12. Guest-16

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    muahahahahahhaaaaa :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: ITS ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE :D:D:D:D

    OMG the transistor is absolutely scorching hot though :( think it might burn out perhaps :sigh:

    Ok this is just wierd: If i switch it off, the LED dims and the fan goes real slow. But if i switch it on the fan picks up speed and the LED is at full brightness. HOWEVER the pot doesnt do ANYTHING!? there's no change in speed when i adjust it :(:(

    edit: on further inspection rtt told me that my trainsistor was the wrong way round, so i swapped that round and now the fan actually turns off when i switch it off, although the transistor is still burning hot :( My pot does FA too - its got nowhere near the range it thought it would have. Im gonna whack out the multimeter and see what the true voltage range is.

    edit: lost my multimeter (could this get any worse?)
     
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    Either A) get a better transistor, the biggest usually only handle 2W B) Stick a heat sink on the transistor.

    Get a bigger pot in there as well if you are having range problems.

    I could help you more if i had a circuit diagram.
     
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    cant stick a heatsink on it - not the right type of package :(

    its exactly the same as above ^^ circuit.
     
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    You need a high power transistor, TIP121 is allways a safe bet.

    Lower the 10K base resistor to 1K and increase the VR value, should get mroe range on it then.
     
  16. Guest-16

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    ty m8 :)

    where do i get a Tip121 from? id rather get it from maplins as i can get it on the way to uni tomorrow morning.

    edit: nm, ill ask tomorrow morning and see what he's got in stock.
     
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    TIP122 - WQ73Q - 99p a shot - 65Watt
     
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    wonderful :D:D ur a big help d00d many thx :):)

    Why when i put in high power npn into the search it comes up with nothing LOL :rolleyes:
     
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    np m8

    because the maplin web site sucks
     
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    true, and if i had something better locally id probably use that instead :( sods law eh.
     

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