I got a flat last night. A screw found my tire.... When I changed the tire there was still air in it. the rim was not riding on the tire. After i took the tires off the car, I tugged at the screw and I could hear air coming out. if there was enough pressure in the tire to do that, to push air out with out the weight of the car on the tire, then I can't see how the rim was riding on the tire. Anyway, I took the tire to a shop to get plugged. They said that the tire can't be fixed and I need to get a new one. The tire is worn, but still has tread on it. Based on what I said here, do you think I need a new tire? Other than a small hole, there is no damage to the tire. I'm 99.99% sure that it wasn't run flat. The TPMS did not come on. (I drove for about 1000ft with low air pressure) Advice?
If the hole is a certain distance within the edge they're not allowed to repair it, even if they want to. Not to mention the untold damage that it might have done to the structure of the tyre itself. If the tyre guy says it needs a new one then I'd listen, generally they're honest people.
Tyres can't easily be repaired for one thing 2nd, remember its not just about keeping air in the tyre. When you're driving along at 70+mph there is a huge amount of force on the outside of the tire, just from it spinning. likewise when you're turning corners there's a lot of heat being generated, softening the rubber and stretching it. This is why the speed rating on a tyre doesn't reflect the speed you go, its more about structural integrity and ability to dissipate heat. Get your tyre replaced and get it done soon. Don't drive on a damaged tyre unless its an absolute emergency I had a blow out on a rear tyre and that was caused simply by there being a tiny chunk missing from the tread causing the tyre to be unbalanced. This happened at very high speed and was very scary, the guy said that if it had happened on my front tyre, i wouldn't be here today.
Tyres connect you to the road in the only good way. If the tyre guy says you need a tyre then not to take one would be a bit "I told you so" if it blows out. If it's one of these uber expensive ones then I can understand, but for £50 it's not worth the experience of having one break!
as kricket said, they can only repair tyres in certain areas. looky if he said it cant be repaired then it cant, he isnt trying to make a quick buck, he is thinking of the safety of you and others.
the store that I took it too said that they couldn't do it because the tire was driven on it when it was flat. But it wasn't, there was air in it. the screw that went in was halfway between the middle and the side. The screw just barely made it through the tire. they also said that there isn't any tread left, but there is. Car is a 2009 mazda 3 He also wanted 250cdn for each tire that I buy. These are not expensive tires(20K and the tread is close to being done)... the store is a huge rip off. Everyone at work asked me why I even went there. I'm going to take it to someone else who doesn't sell tires and see what he has to say. I just want it to get me through to winter when i put my winter tires on and then i will get new all seasons come spring.
Well why don't you try taking it to a decent tyre place? If you know they're ripoff merchants why did you go there? Can you not get a cheap part-worn in your size?
Its close to where I work and its actually a franchise place. Lots of stores. It was supposed to be a simply plug and patch job. I didn't think that they would decide to ty and force me to buy tires. especiallly when I don't need them. Anyway, going to goto get a second opinion on it. Cheers. I'll give some rep when I have time.
I ones drove 180+ km/h on a flat tire. Didn't notice I ran through a screw; Had been to the junkyard and it definitely got punctured there, as it was an automotive screw (holding a fender). I noticed a wobbly feel while on the motorway exit; low speed and cornering. The side (where the brand, size and stuff is 'printed' on was all gone, but at 140+ km/h I hadn't noticed anything. It was the front right tire, so you would think I'd notice. But the high rotation speed probably kept it ' blown up ' or something. There was little, but some, pressure left, although the rim was clearly standing on the side of the rubber. Anyways: won't do you any good, but hey: I'm just saying you could have been doing quite some distance on a low-pressure tire and destroy it: It'll be visible to the naked eye that somethings wrong/worn. On newer cars with low-section tires, powersteering and such,..the effect of a puncture of low pressure isn't that noticeable, especially on motorways. PS: this all took place in Germany,.so don't rant about speedlimits!
Lol, i didn't even think of the speed that you were going until you mentioned it. I went to a small garage and the guy showed me a few spots inside the tire that were hard to see but there was damage. He said that it would be easy to fix the hole, but the damage inside is what the real issue was. If the other place had told me that this thread never would of even been created. Anyway, need new tires now. going to replace all 4 as I would have to soon anyway. will try and sell off the stock ones for cheap. what do you guys think of this one as a good all season tire? http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...utoModClar=s Grand Touring&vehicleSearch=true Or suggest something cheaper if you can. Criteria for me is tread life and noise. Thanks!
The harder the rubber, the longer it lasts, and the less grip you have and vice versa Tyres with silica in them are usually a good compromise, good grip and good life.
My car comes stock from the dealer on Continental SportContact - I assume those are a variation of your model. I found the SportContact tyres very good in the wet and very grippy on cornering, however I would often cause traction control to hit in when doing straight line acceleration. I got around 18k miles on the front set and 32k miles on the back set (changed the front set once). No idea if you can get them over there, or indeed in your size, but I'm currently using a Yokohama brand of tyre. They've got better straight line grip as I almost never hitting traction, and now they've bedded in, the wet and cornering is just as good. The exact ones I have escape me at the mo, and I'm a 225x45xR18 anyway, but they're a slightly softer compound so I'm not expecting as good mileage!
The sport contact must be a summer tire? I found the sport contact 2 and the 3 but they were all summer tires. We (historically) can get snow any month of the year where I live so a summer tire is a no no for me.
Sport Contacts are more of an all-weather rather than a summer tyre I think. Well, they're certainly all-weather in Brit attitudes - no-one uses two sets of tyres for the different times of the year. They're not as gooey as something like Goodyear F1's. What do you have at the moment?
these: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+RS-A Not exactly good... About 20K KM on them and they are done. May of made it to 23-24K before they were worn completely.
Its "bad weather" if we get snow consistently for even one month of the year. Mostly its wet and ice we need to worry about. I guess my insight isn't quite as relevant for you with this in mind!
one problem is when the tyre is run at low pressure, near flat then the steel braiding in the tyre wall becomes damaged (deforms). Also, don't think of a tyre being just rubber, its a laminate, and forcing the tyre wall at odd angles only leads to forcing these laminates in directions they don't want to move, thus shearing the bonding layers. So, you might plug the hole and blow it back up, but I wouldn't trust the dam thing. If I was in a cash strapped situation i would have it plugged and switch the tyre with the spare and use the 'potentially damaged' tyre as a spare. having said that i bet the mazda 3 uses a crap space saver unlike my old volvo with 5 matching wheels.
