Cooling Does a pump have to mounted flat?

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  1. JADS

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    Just curious if this would work
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    This isn't drawn to scale :)

    1. There is a second manifold so just assume it exists.
    2. The pump and rad are not floating by anti-grav.
    3. The N/B blocks would actually be cooling twin PCI-X controllers.
     
  2. Darv

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    AFAIK it would be okay to run the pump at any orientation but I'm not sure.

    Having the manifold there would probably hurt the flow quite considerably if it's meant to be a high flow setup.

    A low flow setup would be more efficeint and you could keep the HDD's in series. Infact you could cool all four in a single Silentstar HDD block.
     
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    I assume 3/8" is low flow?

    That is why I put them at the end of the setup so as not to hurt flow to other blocks. Would this not be sufficient?

    I did see the Silentstar HDD blocks, which go up to dual drives, but they didn't look very well made. I was thinking along the lines of an Aquacomputer Aquadrive and an all Aquacomputer setup, but really I know very little about watercooling :)

    Do you mean like this?

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    Please bear in mind this is all very much a matter of curiosity at the mo :)
     
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  4. Darv

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    Yeah I think with series is the best way to go although some people think parallel is better. The position of the blocks in the loop shouldn't make too much difference.

    Oh and by low flow I was thinking along the line of 3/8.

    AquaComputer is the way to go IMO. Some very nice peices of kit. Pure quality and well worth it. The Aquadrives are very nice, although they are expensive. If your not woried about the noise there is a new micro version coming out. It has the same cooling but without the sound proofing

    Also there is a quad version of the Silentstar block. Pug is trying out one of the duals here. Seem pretty nice.
     
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    Sound proofing is important :)
     
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    I thought so. Well in that case AquaDrives or the SilentStars are the best options :thumb:
     
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    I was hoping to cool the whole lot using 2 120mm 14dB SilenX case fans and a 22dB CoolerMaster STF-B01-E1 30cm cross flow fan mounted at the bottom of the case. With a 14dB 520w SilenX PSU as well the system should be fairly quiet.
     
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    Gah! I had a whole comprehensive post typed out and my session expired! :wallbash:

    Summary follows (much condensed, sorry :blush: )

    Hdds - Parallel gains often (usually) don't outweigh the risk involved over Serial. Go serial unless you develop problems.

    Pump orientation - you can run out of the original spec (I have my 1046 over 90° in my 5.25" bays) but you'll find it much easier to bleed if you can do so in the correct orientation (with the pump outlet uppermost to clear any trapped air).
    Once bled and assuming you have an effective airtrap before the pump, you shouldn't develop any problems (but if the pump is unnaturally noisy, chances are you haven't cleared all the air)

    Hope I remembered most of what I typed, I'm sure I forgot something. :rolleyes:

    PS. As far as the SILENTstars are concerned, if you're going off the pics on the WizD forums, bear in mind that they still have the protective plastic coating over them in those pics...
    (I really should take some now I've removed that, to do them justice :blush: )
     
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    Ah thank you most helpful :)

    Due to a change in circumstances this might actually happen this year... now to find a nice aluminium case that can take 10-11 5.25" drive bays, an E-ATX motherboard and a full watercooling set-up.
     
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    Talking of SILENTstars I've noticed a quad version being mentioned, does it exist? That would be rather helpful if it did :)
     
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    Theres some pictures of it here :thumb:
     
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    Hmm that could well be what I am looking for providing the connection on the left is provided with the drive :)
     
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    Pug What's a Heatsink?

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    Well, the connection actually appears to be two 90° connectors and a bit of tubing, similar to what I did here with all metal connectors and a pair of AquaDrives a while back (hence the crappy pic) -

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    but yeah, I'm pretty sure I have an assortment of poly-bodied black ones and/or metal-body/poly-collar etc. too. :)


    I tell you what though, I'm not looking forward to the day a bunch of the Quads turn up, the Duals are heavy enough! (my poor back :waah: )
     
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    Very interesting stuff :)

    All I need to do now is see if I get accepted for this 6 month contract (which will hopefully lead to a full time position), pay off my debts and save several thousand £s for this upgrade... hmm...
     
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    New plan.

    Can the Aquastream pumps be encased in an enclosure to minimise or completely remove noise? Say a finned thick alu box?

    The new plan also drops the need for a quad Silentstar, two duals are now in the design :) Still need to pay off these debts though before I can even consider building anything.
     
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    Well I have an Aquastream and can say that you won't be able to hear anything from it. The only real problem would be from vibrations. You could use a de-coupling mount so there is no vibration or even some velcro to mount it on.

    If you really did want to remove even the slightest noise from the pump you could incase it in a FMJ This would get rid of all noise and would also stop any magnetic interference if you have the pump next to a monitor.
     
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    Remarkably helpful information :) That FMJ would do nicely in my plans.

    I've changed the plan so it now includes two different W/C loops

    Loop 1:
    Gfx card (maybe one of those nice Gainward 2600s ;)!) -> N/B 0 -> N/B 1 -> SILENTstar Dual 0 -> Reservoir -> Pump 0 (Aquastream) -> Radiator (Evo 360 maybe with two 120mm fans?) -> Gfx card ...

    Loop 2:

    CPU 0 -> CPU 1 -> SILENTstar Dual 1 -> Reservoir -> Pump 1 -> Radiator -> CPU 0 ...
     
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    I always think it's better to have them in one loop as it's much easier to deal with and there's less cluter. But thats a lot of things be cooled so I don't if one loop would cope. :confused:

    I doubt you would need an EVO 360 on the first loop. Maybe a 240 in each loop.

    You're going to need a rather large case for all of this as well.
     
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    True I think that might be the way to go, it would make cramming stuff in a bit easier to :)

    Yes, hence the new plan ;) As I'm not hopeful this will ever get off the ground I am loathed to say anything, but anyway 35cmx35cmx60cm :)
     
  20. Pug

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    Mebbe you could add the SS dual from the CPU loop to the secondary one to balance it a bit.

    I've just been playing with a multiloop setup myself today, funnily enough. :)

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