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Build Advice Does any of this smell like poo?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Vault-Tec, 17 Mar 2020.

  1. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    I think the MP510 has a Phison E12 controller (?).

    But yeah, tbh, i've not kept up with them since I bought mine so there may be a better option that suits you.
     
  2. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    My 256gb Pioneers are on them and they roar. I'd get something more expensive and a couple of 1tb Samsung SATA, but they would look horrendous because of the cables. It needs to be packed on the SODIMM NVME thing really.
     
  3. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    OK money came in. Was a little more than I expected, and tbh after the headaches I've had with water cooling lately I bottled it.

    So I chopped and changed a few things. I can always add to it later storage and etc wise. This is what I got. I'll do the build here, given I doubt it will even require much modding. I'm so tired of problems and leaks.

    I went for the 3950x.

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    For RAM I changed things. Instead of getting 32gb of 3600 I got 16gb of 4133 :O it was quite cheap too tbh. £30 cheaper than I paid for my Dominator RGB 3200 kit/s.

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    One 256gb for Windees and a 1tb for games (for now, I can hide SATA drives easy in this rig)

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    I also changed the board. I just couldn't justify it really. I hope I don't live to regret this, but reviews are very positive.

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    I changed the case also. I had my heart set on this one when I was dreaming last week and tbh I'm happy I got it.

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    Still utterly determined to avoid RGB I got this, saving a small fortune in the process.

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    9 of these (maybe too many but hey, better than not enough)

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    PSU I got this.

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    Cables. Graphite. Again, super low key.

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    And finally the cherry on the cake.

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    There's another reason why I chose this route. I want a VR headset for HL Alyx, and spending that much or even more on water cooling would have stopped me getting that. I also don't want this to take months to do either.
     
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  4. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    I love your threads @Vault-Tec - do you think this looks good because i'm going to buy completely different :lol:

    Just checked that GPU price :jawdrop:

    I am envy.
     
  5. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    I bought a poo board :D

    I'll try and put some sinks on the lower vrm under the board but that may have to go back.

    Yeah the GPU was totally excessive but because of the cut back on ram and storage and no water cooling it still worked out cheaper. You have to water cool the GPU because they mount in the other side of the case vertically. So it's dual chamber and comes with two ribbons so you can run two GPUs vertically. It would over heat in this case otherwise.
     
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  6. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    Changed the board out. It's junk. Trust me to pick THE one that is junk and has vrm temps of 105c with the stock 12 core.

    Changed to the Asus TUF which was the best in class for VRM temps.
     
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    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    This man is for turning lol.

    I always wanted a caselabs. Sadly they're no more. That lian li is as close as it gets visually unless you go thermaltacky.

    I've had that in my dream list for over a week but it wasn't cheap. mostly because well look at it, but also because it comes with two Lian Li ribbons which are about £40 each.

    So yeah, I changed it up. Saved nearly £200 on the mobo and I can now use my Xonar STX below it which looks gorgeous from the side.

    It's just zero aggro. When I said I'd buy a pre built or get maki to do one I wasn't kidding. My area 51 is so complex and has so much electronic crap in it that it can take weeks to troubleshoot. That's my tinker toy or fidget spinner but I need something there all of the time and reliable.

    It all kinda came back to me when working on the x51 recently. You know? Just how easy regular gear is.
     
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  8. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    Got the rest.

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    Didn't fancy £45 on another full set so just got what I needed. Will look nice. Got this too for the sound card.

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  9. modd1uk

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    Awww man I don't wanna be that guy butttttttttttttt

    Check the VRM thermals of that board. :'(

    Interesting video, MSI dropped the ball.

     
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    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    Swapped earlier man. X570 Tuf.

    Yeah how unlucky to pick that exact MSI lol. Thankfully I realised before anything has been shipped so it was easily rectified.

    Problem was online reviews say it's great. It's only on YT they picked up on it by using high end CPUs.
     
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  11. modd1uk

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    Exactly, if you had a 3600 you'd not notice an issue. Issue is now the beefy AMD CPU's are available flaws are starting to show in what we thought were good boards.
     
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    Yup.

    I just hope OCUK did change it but oh well it'll be their error so they can sort it. He said it was done and the order has now shipped.

    Thanks though dude I appreciate that.
     
  13. Bloody_Pete

    Bloody_Pete Technophile

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    I guess its the problem with having such a broad product stack on the same socket, the lower end chips and boards are for very different markets to the high end ones!
     
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    I don't think that's the problem with that board Pete. It's because they, for some reason known only to them, decided to put two vrms under the board with no cooling at all.

    Even with a 3700x they hit mid 70s. Which I guess some reviewers saw as acceptable, but I've seen four phase boards on AM3+ overclock a 8320 just because it had a cooler on the vrms.

    Even MSI seemed amazed. That's worrying really.

    Edit. It's all shipped and the board has indeed been changed. Phew.
     
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  15. modd1uk

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    MSI nailed the B450 market, and some decent X470 boards. They just dropped the ball on quite a few X570 boards, their top tier stuff looks to be OK but bested by the Gigashyte.
     
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    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Yeah, it often seems companies take it in turns as to which chipsets they make good boards for and which ones they just engineer when half drunk.
     
  17. modd1uk

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    Asrock seem to be a solid all rounder for AM4 though, nice to see tbh.
     
  18. Jeff Hine

    Jeff Hine Nothing special

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    My last 4 'boards (that I can verify; still got manuals) have been the following:
    Asus A8N-SLi
    Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3
    Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 3
    MSI X470 Gaming Pro (current)

    None were replaced because they failed; have I been lucky...?
     
  19. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    Both very true. MSI used to use stupid VRM (32 phase on my BBXPII or 24 (16 or 12 doubled ffs) but did crap bioses and Gigabyte were doing frito bandito by releasing a decent board, chopping off the VRM and releasing a rev 2. That's very crafty tbh. They seem to have switched places now !

    Asrock reported their best couple of years ever. This makes me very happy. Even though my TR4 Aorus is only 8 phase it's been fantastic. They definitely sorted their crap out over the past two years.
     
  20. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    Unless you clock the balls off of any board it should last. It's overclocking that's the grey area. My 32 phase Big Bang Xpower 2 (try saying that with a mouthful of rice crispies !) died after 11 months of 5.1ghz on my 3970x?

    https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...extreme-edition-15m-cache-up-to-4-00-ghz.html

    Yup that was him. Oddly enough that was my last "Dream PC" which ended in a nightmare. Sent the board back to MSI, who then said "We don't have one to replace it with". "OK, send me the best X79 board you have then" "Well we don't have any at all".

    That is what happens now that Intel continually switch sockets. They don't have any suitable replacements. I ended up settling for a GTX 970 which I had to sell, then bought a second hand RIVE but I was so paranoid I stripped it down and sold it all and bought my triangle shaped Alienware. At least Dell keep replacement parts.

    I've never had a board die otherwise. I've even had some super pants Asrocks and they never died.
     

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