Education Does Money Make You Happy?

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  1. samkiller42

    samkiller42 For i AM Cheesecake!!

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    I'm sorry my speilling isn't upto standard for you, but this thread isn't about peoples spelling.

    Sam
     
  2. Jumeira_Johnny

    Jumeira_Johnny 16032 - High plains drifter

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    My brother, my heart reaches out to you. It does. Yes, I have seen the life. I have driven the Ferrari, the GT3 and it was good. Was my heart full? no. I have stood in the Umayyad Mosque, the Hayat Sophia, the Dome of the Rock and felt the centuries of hate and love wash over me. And it I was at peace. If you want to know how it feels to feed yourself by working in the sun and dirt, it puts a new meaning to it. I have had jobs in many places that were not nice, that hurt and were dirty. It puts things in a certain perspective. I look at what I have now at 33 and see how far I pushed myself. I see the success my wife has seen and know the many nights she went with out sleep to get here.

    I hate to say it. I hated hearing it when I was young. I hated the smug righteousness they all had. But I will tell you, habibi, you are so young. You have no idea of the potential you have within you. Just look beyond the Bugatti long enough to see a place where you can change the way people think, the way they live, the way they care about each other.

    Dubai IS like Las Vegas. It's not real. I wish the next time I am in Dubai I could show you how the gold leaf flakes off and there are real problems there. And how people live in parts of the world where your garbage is a meal. Don't let the flashy car cloud your vision, there is by far more to life then that. The watches, the phones... all a fake image.

    You worry about girls and love? Trust me, they have a way of seeing to your soul. If you are all phone and car, and not heart and brain; then you will never have a chance. I know from deep inside (and 10 years of marriage) that a girl will love you for your courage to stand for what is right- for your honor- your beliefs long before she even cares about your money. Make her laugh, and let her know you care about her and everything that matters, and she will follow you to the end of the earth AND money will follow in time. God has 99 names, yanni; but you have but one. Make it mean something...make people remember your for kindness and caring. Not for having money and cars.
     
  3. ComputerKing

    ComputerKing <img src="http://forums.bit-tech.net/images/smilie

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    Jumeira_Johnny I SWEAR you talk like my FATHER!!! He says same things, Exact the same. But can you tell me why I'm not Satisfied?!
     
  4. modgodtanvir

    modgodtanvir Prepare - for Mortal Bumbat!

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    Money itself doesn't make you happy, unless you have some sort of disorder. However, it makes the happiness a lot easier to come by. Instead of hovering around the poverty line, in a desperate bid to get the month's mortgage in on time, you'll instead be able to enjoy life with those you love, afford the luxuries which would make you a happier person, and fulfill a lot more of your dreams.

    And Jumeira, that was rather beautiful - and very affectionately fatherly :p

    Though you do sound like my uncle. And he calls me 'habibi' quite a lot as well :p
     
  5. Jumeira_Johnny

    Jumeira_Johnny 16032 - High plains drifter

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    I will tell you a secret. At 25, I noticed one day that I said something. And I SWEAR to you, it was my father talking. My wife kissed me and told me how proud she was of me. and I knew then that while he wasn't perfect, in the big things he was right. I am better, but I carry him -and my mother- in me.

    Why aren't you satisfied? You see the light, but you don't know how to make your own. That's why. Do you understand?
     
  6. ComputerKing

    ComputerKing <img src="http://forums.bit-tech.net/images/smilie

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    Yes I do understand :), I can see the light But I can't make my way to it. I can't reach it because there is nothing push me towards it. No reason.

    Also for example. Those Rich people who have sons they go to best Universities and get the best jobs after even if they don't get great marks in high school or university. It don't matter because they have money. But a Hard worker person will not get any thing. He will go to crap government school and university then work for low salary that if he find a job.
     
  7. theevilelephant

    theevilelephant Minimodder

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    happiness has little to do with money, yes money can make life more comfortable but not everything can be bought. My family went from living in a small 2 room flat in crap part of milan, to living in a 3 bedroom house in the UK with a car, cable, fast internet, etc etc. If you asked us if we were happier now the answer is no.
     
  8. ComputerKing

    ComputerKing <img src="http://forums.bit-tech.net/images/smilie

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    Can I ask you WHY!!! :sigh:
     
  9. TheFox

    TheFox What's a Dremel?

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    TBH i find that happiness is what you make it, regardless of money, like that song from lost (i think its from mamma cass elliot), it mentions that "you gotta make your own kind of music, sing your own special song.... even if nobody else sings along", its about finding happiness in whatever situation your in, or failing that making your own happiness.

    I think thats what Jumeira_Johnny meant by the light, you can see what happiness is, but you can't find a way to make yourself feel that happiness (its more of the feeling of it than the materialism behind it (lol if that makes sense at all).
     
  10. Jumeira_Johnny

    Jumeira_Johnny 16032 - High plains drifter

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    No, here you are wrong. It's not the light of others you have to go towards. You need to find that within yourself. We all do. No one can push you, except you. Stop looking to others, and learn that you it's all inside you. Win. Fail. Get back up to try again. Only you can do that.

    I tell you this with direct honesty. STOP worrying about the other kids, rich or poor. STOP caring about whether the rich kids get the university slots, or the jobs. Worry about you. Working hard at a government university means more to you then coasting through a spot bought by your parents. It means you earned it. And in the end, it's better to get things you earned then things handed to you. Read Starship Troopers* by Robert Heinland and you'll pick out the paragraph you need to figure it out.

    *Availble at the Borders book store next to the CineStar cinema in MoE, or McGrudy's on Jumeira Beach Road by the Spinney's. If not, they can order it for you.
     
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  11. Ramble

    Ramble Ginger Nut

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    What is happiness?
     
  12. Smilodon

    Smilodon The Antagonist

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    I'll take good friends over money.

    Sure, buying stuff is nice. But some of the good feeling about buying stuff is that you know you have worked for it, and deserve to treat yourself with something nice.

    If you could just go out and buy everything you want, you have basically lost all goals. You have nothing to work for. In fact, you have no reason for living at all... There is a name for that: Depression, The exact opposite of happiness.

    Also, if you could get everything you want, you'll soon discover that there is a few things that money can't buy. It can't buy you REAL friends, it can't buy you time, and it can't buy you happy memories. For instance, if you want to buy a Ferrari, you'll soon discover that there is a waiting list. At this point you start running out of time. You'll end up constantly frustrated over the fact that you don't have time to use or get everything you want. And even though you have all the money in the world, you still can't buy time.


    As for the working in the dirt all day and get poor payment, well, there is more to working than the actual work and pay. You make friends, connection and get a lot of experience. You can also stand back at the end of the day and say "I did that with my own hands".

    An example: A few weeks ago I was helping a good friend with some construction work. I still had to do my normal day-job as usual. This resulted in working 15-20 hour days. At the end of the week I was exhausted, but it still was the best week I have had in a very long time. I got some new experience, and I got to spend a lot of time together with a friend. I Also knew that said friend was happy, which in turn give me a good feeling. I also made it clear that I didn't want any payment for the work.




    So, Try living a week or two in a more "primitive" way than you do now. Find some physical, "dirty" work to do for free. Don't spend any more money than absolutely necessary (Simple food, clothes and hygiene stuff. The bare essentials, nothing more). You may feel that it's pointless now, but wait and see how you feel after that period of time. You simply can't understand how it is without trying it first. As it sounds now, you are in a loop where you just want more and more, and can never get enough. That won't make you happy, that's for sure!
     
  13. Jumeira_Johnny

    Jumeira_Johnny 16032 - High plains drifter

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    LOL, only in the rest of the world. Trust me, in Dubai, you get one the same day. Hell, if you have the cash, you can have 5 with in 20 min. And I'm so not kidding.
     
  14. mvagusta

    mvagusta Did a skid that went for two weeks.

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    You make me laugh CK :hehe: You've got heaps of wisdom posted here, take the time to re-read all of it, the whole thread, carefully :thumb:

    So what makes you happier? Seeing a saleswoman smile because you bought an expensive watch from her?
    Or seeing a woman smile because you are on a date with her, and you make her happy?

    Or what are you more proud of? The pre assembled computer your dad bought you, or the computer you built?

    What do you think you will be happier with when you are 40? A life where the wife you have is because she loves your money, and your kids love their money more than you, or a life where your wife loves you for you, and your kids love spending time with you?

    Don't get me wrong, i'd love to have exotic sports cars, masions, a jet or two, etc, but the cars won't hug me, the houses won't kiss me, and the jets don't laugh at my jokes. This is why they are a distant second priority to the real thing. Even if you were to program a car to hug & kiss you, even laugh at your jokes, it's being programmed to do it, it's not happening on it's own free will.

    Take pets for example. They don't care about superficial stuff at all. They love being loved, being fed, being played with, recieving attention, etc You can't buy a pet's love, you have to earn it. Even the pets in dubai won't love you for your money. Now i'm not reccomending you get a pet! Get some seeds for a plant first. If the plant has grown and is still looking great after 1 year, then maybe you can think about getting a pet.
     
  15. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

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    Yeah somewhat, I like to have nice things but that doesn't make my world go round
     
  16. Veles

    Veles DUR HUR

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    Having money does add to my happiness, but having a top of the line GFX card won't make me much happier than what I have now. Having more money than I would ever need wouldn't make me the maximum happiness possible, there are some things that make people happy that money can't buy, and there are things that make people unhappy that money won't cure.

    Yes, it would be nice to have lots of money, I do like my gadgets, but there is more to life than things you can buy.
     
  17. jhanlon303

    jhanlon303 The Keeper of History

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    I have some stuff. $300K house, wife of 30 yrs, 3 son's at home or within a couple blocks, grand kids up the wazoo, $1.04/minute take home job( I got a 4% raise).
    And zero health! Anybody want to trade a fancy car for my wheelchair? Wanna trade a custom gaming rig for my O2 tank?
    Just live well, expect nothing( you can't be disappointed) and treasure each day. A sunrise can be precious. Enjoy your time here and don't whine about "could have" or should have"
    Ever see the sun rise at 14,000 ft. on a mountain top? Humbling.

    John
     
  18. Krikkit

    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    What about your capitalisation and grammar, Captain Pedant? I'll bet there's >1 spelling mistake in your history too... ;)
     
  19. jhanlon303

    jhanlon303 The Keeper of History

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    Where's the grammar Police? We be deep in trouble here!
    John
     
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