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A/V Does my new TV hate my DVD Player?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by deedub, 2 Oct 2002.

  1. deedub

    deedub What's a Dremel?

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    Hi :D

    Say hello to my new Sony Widescreen TV, Mr KV28LS60.

    Also say a big hello to my nice little Sony stereo, Mr MHC-ZX70DVD.

    "So, what's the problem?" you may wonder, well......

    I have used my Stereo/DVD player for almost 2 years now without a hitch.
    (Previously it was connected via S-VHS to an older 21inch Sony TV with no problems).
    My new TV "apparently" has the ability to detect which type of
    signal (either S-VHS or Composite) is being sent to the AV3 channel and
    change the picture output accordingly.

    However, the picture displayed was distorted with nasty colour bleeding.
    I called an engineer out to take a look and he said it looked to him
    as though the S-VHS signal from my DVD player was slightly to weak
    for my new TV to detect it WAS S-VHS, therefor defaulting to a composite signal picture display!

    I quickly arranged a replacement TV as the engineer had suggested
    (perhaps I just had a faulty unit). But imagine the foul language eminating
    from me when I realised the replacement TV had exactly the same
    problem!!!!!!!!!

    My question to anyone bored enough to read this far is this:-

    1/ Is there a known incompatability between the Sony KV28LS60 and the
    Sony MHC-ZX70DVD?

    2/ Is there any way of amplifying or boosting an S-VHS signal to give
    the TV more to lock on to (If that is the problem)

    I have tested various lengths of S-VHS cable (cables that work on other
    TVs) and tested the other scart sockets (AV1, AV2, and AV4) by using my
    PS2 to play DVD's, which works fine.
    I have also tried the TV out from my PC to the S-VHS on the TV and that works fine too!!!!!:confused:

    So to make a long story even longer.......WTF is going on?:eyebrow:
     
  2. Koolvin

    Koolvin The Modfather

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    sorry for being 'dumb' but why cant you use scart?
     
  3. deedub

    deedub What's a Dremel?

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    No Scart sockets left! I've used all three (PS2, XBOX, VCR via Sky)
    Besides.....converting the S-VHS lead from my Stereo to a
    Scart plug doesn't solve the problem. The signal is still currupted.:hip:
     
  4. Lord_A

    Lord_A Boom baby!

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  5. deedub

    deedub What's a Dremel?

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    Thanks for the link Lord_A

    Could be my only option:D

    I think I'll wait for Sony to get back to me first before I spend
    any more cash:naughty:
     
  6. GreatOldOne

    GreatOldOne Wannabe Martian

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    If I where you, I'd be pumping RGB via a scart from the DVD to the TV, and let everything else use S-Video. That way you'll get the best possible picture for movies, and decent quality for everything else.

    Hell - if you get stuck on S-Video inputs, just route the video as composite! Using anything higher than S-Video on an analogue recorder is being wasted, IMHO.

    Not noing the DVD player in question, can't you daisy chain the Sky box through it, so both can benifit from RGB? (That's assuming that the TV is like my old sony and has 1 RB enabled scart socket).

    Just GOO's 2peneth....
     
  7. deedub

    deedub What's a Dremel?

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    How much info for a fiver? :hehe:

    BTW GOO, the DVD player in question is MHC-ZX70DVD

    The only outputs from the DVD are composite and S-VHS.
    Having seen the difference between a good composite signal
    and a good S-VHS singnal, I'd have to say S-VHS blows composite away!
    (It did on my old TV anyway :D )
    So you can understand my reluctance to go back to a composite setup.
    Really there is no reason why my S-VHS picture is so crap, but then......
    ....that's life. :waah:

    I'm gonna contact SONY today and find out what my options are.
     
  8. GreatOldOne

    GreatOldOne Wannabe Martian

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    Aaah - I see. I thought you had a stand alone player. It's very unusual for a stand alone not to have RGB. If it's only got the S-Video, continue using that.

    On the composite front - I only meant the VCR could be connected via component (unless it's an SVHS player, or DVHS).

    BTW - SVHS and SVideo are completely different. SVHS is a tape / recording format, wheras SVideo is a connection format.
     
  9. deedub

    deedub What's a Dremel?

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    Oops:blush:

    Sorry Goo, you know what I ment:D

    Excuse me while I curl up and hide under a big stone
    for making a fool of my self! (The worrying thing is I knew
    the difference, I have an SVHS recorder....my mind must be
    going downhill! :p .....and it only gets worse for here on. :hehe:

    It's the S-Video connection that's the problem, the reception
    looks worse than my channel 5. (not that I watch channel 5.:naughty: )
     
  10. ZapWizard

    ZapWizard Enter the Mod Matrix

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    Does the TV and/or the DVD have componet video?
    (Red Green Blue?)
     
  11. GreatOldOne

    GreatOldOne Wannabe Martian

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    Can you give us a diagram of how you've got it all setup? Also, Where did you get the hifi/dvd from? Looks like it's a US unit....
     
  12. deedub

    deedub What's a Dremel?

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    Both TV and DVD/Stereo are from UK, Comet and Currys
    respectivley.

    The DVD/Stereo (Sony MHC-ZX70) has both S-Video and a
    normal Video Out Jack (Phono Jack).

    The TV has 3 Scart sockets labelled AV1, AV2 and AV3.
    It also has 1 S-Video socket and 1 set of RGB componet sockets.

    I've connected the DVD/Stereo to the TV via S-Video, ie
    S-Video OUT from the DVD/Stereo to S-Video IN on the TV.
    I have also used an S-Video to Scart adapter to connect to
    the TV (testing all 3 AV scart sockets on the back of the TV)
    but the picture is still bad.

    My previous TV had no problems with the above setup.

    The thing that really throws me is that the S-Video OUT
    from my PC gives a perfect picture when connected to
    the S-Video IN on the TV.

    So............I know the S-Video OUT on the DVD/Stereo works
    because it was fine on my old set (and still IS)

    And I know that the S-Video IN on the TV works because I
    can get a perfect picture form my 'puter.

    I just don't know why the TV and DVD/Stereo don't work
    together!..............Hence the name of the thread. :D
     
  13. GreatOldOne

    GreatOldOne Wannabe Martian

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    Ok - Not wanting to tell you how to suck eggs here, but you have tried other svideo cables?

    I assume that the svideo in on the TV is on the front, as in my old Sony Wega. I seem to remember that you had to 'assign' an AV channel to the front connections (AV3) for them to work. You should find settings for it in the setup menus.

    Is it a multi region DVD player? Is the TV set NTSC compatible for playing back region 1 disks?

    Where's the component connections - the data on the link doesn't mention them... Are you confusing the composite and L&R stereo phonos on the front as these?
     
  14. ZapWizard

    ZapWizard Enter the Mod Matrix

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    I used to work at radioshack and have seen this a lot.

    Is there a bent pin on the S-Video Cable?
    Or a broken connector inside the S-Video Jack?
    (You can check this with an Ohm meter if you have one)
     
  15. deedub

    deedub What's a Dremel?

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    S-Video is on the side of the TV (hidden away:( )

    This particular model has an automatic detection for AV3
    so there are no settings to adjust in the on-screen menu,
    belive me I checked!

    No, the DVD/Stereo is not multi-regional. It's set to PAL
    region 2 so although the TV is NTSC compatible it should
    still play region 2 DVD's without any problems.

    The component connections are hidden on the side below
    the S-Video port. The L&R Stereo phono sockets are at the
    back of the TV along with the Scart sockets.

    Haven't tried sucking eggs yet but if you think it'll help I could
    give it a go! :D



    Cables are fine. I've tried 2 different lengths (2m and 15m)
    and I know these S-Video cables work cause I've used them
    on other equipment.

    Hope that clears a few things up. :(
     

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