Just wanted to comment on this part: Valve were looking for experienced players. Did you sign up for the beta? It asked players various questions related to the original Dota, things newcomers and even HoN/LoL players wouldn't have answers to. Been watching a couple of my housemates playing, not so fussed about not getting a key anymore. It's kind of funny watching them play and listening to their comments. Things like "it's faster than HoN" when it clearly isn't from an outside persective or comments such as "Witch Doctor is better than Voodoo Jester" because they had a good game playing him. It's definitely still a beta, if you're just looking to have fun playing a polished and complete game then HoN/LoL is the way to go.