Drugs

A very well paid one who works on Harley Street?

(and the only man to ever be inside of me. Bazinga.)

 

So far...

 

Que thehippoz to say something inappropriate in 3... 2... 1...

 

You do realise doctors can, and a lot do, hire rooms in Harley street premises by the hour don't you?

That's more that I want to know

 

Being a partner of the London Clinic, a Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons and recommended by 3 friends fathers, all of whom are GP's, and the fact that he's operated on my twice and I'm still here to talk about it, yeah, I do trust him. Seemingly with my life.

 

I see you feel very strongly about coffee, Spec.

 

Even more so after his sixth cup.

 

But if you dont have that condition would it be ok to drink tea every day? I live for tea..

 

Tea has caffeine in it, but less than coffee. Again, moderate amounts of caffeine doesn't do anyone any serious harm, unless of course you have a stomach condition which prevents you from breaking it down.

Enjoy tea all you want.

 

I know I'm late to this party, and I'm not really sure that there's much else that I could add to this discussion, but I just wanted to pick out this comment:

Assuming that by "smoking a joint" you mean "smoking cannabis mixed with tobacco", I would seriously, seriously doubt that someone would die from it. I am not trying to call you a liar, but was it really the cannabis that caused someone to die? If this person was a "hardened drug user", presumably that means that they were (or had) also taken other drugs; if the death was indeed drug related, is there no possible chance that there was some kind of overdose on any other drug?

I really don't want to sound crass or insensitive here, but I smoked cannabis (resin, herbal and "skunk") for many, many years and I shudder to think of some of the conditions that it might have been prepared in - especially cannabis resin. Aside from increasing my chances of lung cancer, and the normal after-effects of cannabis, neither I nor anyone else I know have ever suffered any seriously adverse effects from smoking cannabis.

Of course you can't discount the possibility that it may have been laced with something entirely unpleasant, but in that case the cause wouldn't have directly been cannabis. But that in itself is an argument for legalisation - the quality and quantity of ingredients can be controlled, regulated and therefore guaranteed.

I'm not going to argue for legalisation of this drug or that drug or whatever. What I would argue for however is a drug policy based on science, evidence and reason. Based on the evidence, there are plenty of legal drugs already available which are far more harmful than some of the illegal ones. And just so we're clear, by drug I mean the medical definition here - any compound which has a chemical effect on the normal functioning of the body's processes. That same argument holds up even when you account for societal factors and just not direct drug-related harm. Plus, there are also illegal drugs readily available which are far more harmful - directly and indirectly - than the legal ones.

Sadly, the chances of something like that ever happening are pretty remote - just ask Prof. David Nutt, I believe he's somewhat experienced in this matter...

 

From actual cannabis, it's basically impossible to die.

 

I read that only one person every died from cannabis and that was some smugglers in a plane threw a load out to avoid arrest and it hit a bloke on the head below lol

 

Yeah the dose to pass out from cannabis is so much lower than the lethal dose you'd basically have to attach yourself to a THC drip to have a fatal overdose.

 

Talk about a bad trip with a hard come-down.



I'll get my coat.

 

I'm sure cannabis has never killed anyone directly, but im sure there is a fair number of people who've died driving etc while under the influence.

Just because you can't overdose on it, doesn't mean it can't be responsible for someones death.

 

Which is why I later made the distinction between direct and indirect harm.

 

In comparison to alcohol though. It's probably far less. Still the point still stands.

 

I only read that after I posted though

 

It's true that it's become common for people to repress "hash" with all kinds of stuff but I seriously doubt anyone has ever died from one joint tbh that statement is on par with the proper gander film reefer madness
But since all the repressed rubbish hash more and more people grow their own which can only be a good thing, that takes money away from the dealers and ensures these people only have good clean cannabis not to mention how well the electric companies do out of it

Strange that I've seen no end of people get violent on drink ( me included ) but never seen anyone like that on cannabis in the 30 years I smoked cannabis, haven't smoked for 12 years now though myself but I doubt thats changed.

 

The sad issue though is that people who are against this will insist that other drugs will be legalized. And while the slippery slope argument is a fallacy. They have a point. Why not? At the same time, right now we can still ask why not.

I'd say if you legalize, say cannabis, then the deterrent would be disproportionately high penalties for work under the influence in a public place. But the other problem with that is you'll end up with wrongful punishment if it's just on that basis.

Plus THC stays in the system for a while.