Dual 2.4xeon P4 or single 3.4 P4

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by DreamTheEndless, 5 Mar 2004.

  1. felix the cat

    felix the cat Spaceman Spiff

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    usb 2.0 pci card = teh win or so it seems!
     
  2. DeathAwaitsU

    DeathAwaitsU I'm Back :D

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    USB2.0 of Course

    Yeah i want USB 2.0 onboard, makes life easier, i don't think i'd have room for a USB card anyway, as i'm havin 2 gfx cards, 2 sound cards, a network card, and another one that i'm gonna have 2 research into, the boards i was lookin at only have 5-6 slots so USB is the way 2 go :D

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  3. felix the cat

    felix the cat Spaceman Spiff

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    ok 2 gfx cards these days would indicate your going to run 3-4 monitors (nice but damn pricey!!!)

    2 sound cards?? why, especially as most mobos have an onboard one....

    should be one hell of a rig with those specs...personally id still get an opteron...just my 2p
     
  4. Xen0phobiak

    Xen0phobiak SMEGHEADS!

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    no, its like having two cpu's that can both swith between threads very very quickly. I'd go for the single p4.
     
  5. penski

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    Dell are going Opteron...It's almost guarenteed.

    Why do you need two sound cards exactly? You've mentioned that you don't have much of a budget limit here...so what are you going to be doing audio wise?

    Are you going to be recording/producing or are you going to simply be listening to music/watching DVDs?

    Whatever you do, do not buy a Creative card.

    I'd say get a single good soundcard and a PCI USB2.0 card and go with the Opterons.

    *n
     
  6. DeathAwaitsU

    DeathAwaitsU I'm Back :D

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    Lol goin british on me now? :hehe: i'm guessin ure from U.S flix, i'll need 2 sound cards cuz i'm plannin on running my decks and speakers thru my comp, the other will be for my pc speakers (7:1, 4500W :rock: (if the sites not lying :wallbash: )) so i can edit it on my comp, running them all thru one sound card would mean i would only be able 2 listen 2 music and not play games at the same time cuz most of my, well all my music is on my comp so this way i can run music thru one set of speakers and game sound thru another so there not over each other and sound ****ed up (sry if ure not allowed 2 swear, if sum1 tells me its against the rules i wont do it again), if i get a board with 7:1 then i wont need a second card but otherwise i will, ya get me?
    yea i'm planning on havin three monitors 19":21":19" and then running thru a 52" plasma tv (no i'm not rich, student loans are a good thing :D)

    It may usually be pricey but i know a guy that works for The Pleasure Beach (Blackpool,UK) who gets really cheap ****, like a 500Gig HDD for like £200 (now thats good **** son), i didnt even know you could get 500Gig drives til he told me.

    While on the subject, i have seen a psone screen hooked up 2 a pc displaying bios settings, does any1 know if he used it as another monitor, or like a vfd? if a monitor that plans down the drain, if a vfd a second question, can u run 2 vfd's :D

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  7. felix the cat

    felix the cat Spaceman Spiff

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    fair enough on the monitors/gfx cards then....

    sound cards and other info that penski posted is spot on...

    o yeah, if you are seriously into mixing (ie decks) you will want to get final scratch not a 2nd soundcard...

    just my 3ps worth now...and yes im from the uk ta very much.... :eeek:
     
  8. Mister_Tad

    Mister_Tad Will work for nuts Super Moderator

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    rofl
    i take it that isnt watts RMS then

    or they really are lying to you
     
  9. felix the cat

    felix the cat Spaceman Spiff

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    thats a peak value imo...

    gotta divide by the squareroot of something...arg my electronics is crap!
     
  10. DeathAwaitsU

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    Dunno

    Flix you are definatly following me :lol:

    I dunno i just saw an advertisment for them, aint looked into them yet it just had a pic and said 4500W so i would have 2 check myself

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  11. JADS

    JADS Et arma et verba vulnerant

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    I can say with 99.99999% certaintity that Dell will not touch the Opterons with a barge pole. The Opteron is still an unproven platform, they would likely lose Intel discounts and for absolutely no return. Dell will continue to use Xeons.
     
  12. penski

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    OMG! MEGA ULTRA 1287.2 SOUND CARD AND PC SPEAKER SET ONLY £300!!111ONE

    You still don't need two soundcards by the way.

    *n
     
  13. felix the cat

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    play nicely penski :p
     
  14. penski

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    Don't forget they are at least 1000 WATT PMPO ;)
     
  16. DeathAwaitsU

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    I may notget two sound cards anyway i dont now yert, we will see what comes along when i get round to buying components, i'm doin my case first :D mobo, cpu's, gfx cards etc... are being fitted second to last, the final thing will be w/c :brrr: :D

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  17. DreamTheEndless

    DreamTheEndless Gravity hates Bacon

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    Thanks for everyone's advice. he's going for the dual xeon.
     
  18. TheAnimus

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    is there a word for people who are scared of more than 1 CPU?

    Ne way, there is a lot myth surrounding the dual CPUs.
    #1 Hyperthreading is bull****. Often its the same parts of the CPU that you need, therefore u actually get a bottle neck, however its better than nothing.
    #2 Computing isn't just about UT2004 FPS, if you think it is, well ignore the rest of this post plz. A decent computer never hangs. Now proper dual CPUs makes this a lot easyer, Windows threading is fantastic, when you fire up a game, it will allow you to give that process the whole CPU to itself, no other program will interfear with it, while intel are behind AMD in the 'smart' PIE (interupt management) system that allows even non related interupts to be handled by the other CPU, its still a hudge performance most bench marking software misses because of the very nature of the bench marking software.
    A properly set up dual MP1600 hundread system gets a lot more FPS on an old single processor supporting game like HL, than an XP2000. Trust me, if u don't wanna next lan i'm at come up n let me show u.

    This is because when you call a windows API (any program) most enter kernel mode, this is a differn't process effectivly, and it can actually be handled by the 2nd CPU without any real time loss (Its all thunked accross from INT 2E if memory recalls). That won't show up in most bench mark programs, because they are often just looking at the wrong thing, i don't want to have to close winamp, email clients, all my IE windows, hell i am often too lasy to close my IDEs. With a healthy amount of RAM and a 2nd CPU that all this 'bunk' can run in, you get such a hudge boost of performance.

    Most of the dev work (software dev) i do requires a hell of a lot of RAM + CPU, thats y i buy dual machines, but i also like to game, and my dev machien has always put the others to shame, a classic example was a PII350 machine i had, with an ATI 2d gfx card, that could run UT at higher FPS than my AMDK6-2 450 with voodoo2! Using just software emulation. I felt like a wasak for buying that machine for gaming.

    On the desk i am writing this on, i have 2 machines, 2.8ghz Hyperthreading P4 1 gig ram. DUAL MP1600 1 gig ram. The dual machine whips its arse. Its the one i always pick up. It never hangs, its just perfect (Hence y its sooo old). When at i17 planetside was rather rampant, but people moaning about ALT+TABBING someone behind me, same amount of ram, XP2200+ (something faster than my yacko box), his took flipping ages to get to the winlogon ctrl + alt + del screen from planet side, mine just went did it straight away, its about that.

    In short, duals have a much longer life span, because your just so content with how fast your desktop feals.

    On an asside if your a BSD user then a dual is good if ur using XFree86, helps get rid of the horrid latency fealing of using sockets. (note helps, i always think i have gone back in time and using windows 3.1 on my SX).
     

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