Cooling Dual Opteron Water Cooling

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  1. rowbin_hod

    rowbin_hod What's a Dremel?

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    Hi all

    I've got a Dual Opteron 244 machine, based on the Asus K8N-DL motherboard. I'm looking to ge thtis machine as quiet as possible, and I've always wanted to have a go with watercooling, so i thought i'd take the plunge :D

    I've got a few questions first, that I'd be very grateful if some more experienced people could answer ;)

    Firstly, as you can see from this picture of the motherboard, the chipset fan is directly under the back of the graphics card. I guess I've got about 1.5cm of height to play with, so i was wondering if anyone know of some uber slimline chipset blocks.

    Aside from the chipset block, I'm going to need to cool the 2 CPUs but not the graphics (It's passive). I'm looking at the Zalman ZM-WB3 waterblocks (i'm a big fan of zalman stuff) a Hydor L30 and a 120mm radiator. My immediate concerns are whether the Hydor will have enough power for 3 blocks and whether the 120mm rad will be able to cool it all.
    AFAICT, the Opterons put out ~90W of heat, so < 200W total, and the radiator can get rid off 440W of heat (see here), but will this be with a really powerful fan, or will I be able to use one of the nice quiet Akasa amber series fans?

    Lastly, I believe the Hydor can be sunk in the res. I had an idea of making a res with the Hydor in it, then putting padding all around the res to block out as much sound from the pump as possible. I thought this would be better than soundproofing the pump itself, as it may overheat.

    Any thoughts or suggestions would be most welcome!


    cheers
     
  2. coolmiester

    coolmiester Coolermaster Legend

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    Well Nexxo has been watercooling dual Opterons for quite some time on a single Black Ice Extreme which is definitely worth a read through

    Project Metaversa

    ...and i've literally just finished a dual Opteron set-up though went for a double Black Ice as its was cooling Sli cards also but considering the both CPU's are at around 29 - 30degrees i'd say you would have no trouble using a single.

    Project Dualmaster

    I've never been a big fan of Hydor pumps so i'll let others comment on that :blah:

    Maybe some pictures would be good also :thumb:
     
  3. dav1d

    dav1d What's a Dremel?

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    I have watercooled a dual xeon system. After about a month, my pump failed, and rather than deal with the work of rebuilding the watercooling loop, went back to air cooling. However don't let that put you off - I think I just had a bad pump. It was the Dangerden DDC, which I had read as being very quiet and tiny - and it was. Until it failed. My advice - don't use this pump.

    Anyway, Eheim pumps seem to be used a lot, so they must work well. They're quite big though - you need to think about how you are going to fit a watercooling system in your case. Another alternative is the Dangerden D4.

    My advice would be go for 1/2" ID parts. I used 3/8", and it was quite hard finding parts for this kind of setup. Most of the popular parts are 1/2".

    I cooled dual overclocked xeons with just 1 thermochill 120.1, so a single rad should be fine. However, you might want to go for a 120.2, or even the PA160, just for better performance and piece of mind. If you want to cool a graphics card as well, you will need something bigger thatn a single 120mm rad.

    I don't know anything about those zalman waterblocks. I used swiftech 6000 waterblocks (3/8" - the 1/2" versions are the 6002). You can buy different mountings for these so they can potentially fit on nearly any socket without buying a whole new waterblock.
     
  4. Risky

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    I had a hydor inside a res for a while. If you have it sitting on a bit of foam inside the res it is very quiet and yes submerging the pump is good for it's reliability.

    Afaik, the Eheim pumps are submersible too.
     
  5. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    You got 30C for dual cores and SLI 6800 Ultras on a BIX2? Useful to know that. :thumb: Those rads are pretty capable, aren't they? :D
     
  6. coolmiester

    coolmiester Coolermaster Legend

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    Yeah according to Vadim the Dual Cores are 90n ones so should be quite cool anyway so would image without the 2 Ultras it may be a bit cooler :thumb:

    I wasn't expecting them to run that cool TBH
     
  7. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Dual Core Opterons put out 110 Watts --not that much more than a single core's 85 Watts. Still, SLI adds quite a bit with 2 x 78 Watts. So you're looking at 376 Watts.
     
  8. rowbin_hod

    rowbin_hod What's a Dremel?

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    Thanks for the info! Good to know my ideas aren't completely stupid ;)
     
  9. phuzz

    phuzz This is a title

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    that's a nice mobo btw, (odd question, can you get anything to work in the PCI slots? we've been having problems at work with every card we've tried...*grumble* someone should have approved the boards before we started selling them *grumble*)
     
  10. Fibbles

    Fibbles What's a Dremel?

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    I'm using the DDC with no problems so far. Maybe you just got a bad pump? My Eheim 1046 (Innovatek HPPS) has been working with no problems for over 2 years now, so I'd say their build quality is excellent, and I've rarely heard reports of them failing or breaking on their own.
     
  11. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    the extra power plug (on pcie anyways) for three measly watts? where'd you get that info? and is that based on GT or Ultra?

    I've read a couple things about DDCs having problems with their controller or something, and that if you hit them they'll start back up. I wouldn't want to take that chance personally.
     
  12. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    We were discussing the Ultras. Power consumption is as follows:

    GeForce 6800 Ultra: 3.3V x 0.5A + 5V x 4.5A + 12V x 4.5A = 78.2 Watts
    Geforce 6800 GT: 3.3V x 0.5A + 5V x 4.0A + 12V x 3.0A = 57.9 Watts

    Both are estimates based on data supplied by nVidea.
     
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