E.U: Leave or Stay? Your thoughts.

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  1. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    I'd curb your enthusiasm. The UK needs a solid government in the Netherlands to make Brexit negotiations a success; after all the Netherlands has many economic ties with the UK and is one of the main EU nations that wants a nice, soft agreement that benefits the UK and EU.

    If PVV wins it will be coalition wars and the Netherlands will be too preoccupied to deal with Brexit negotiations. Nobody wants to work with Wilders. Not because of his ideology, but because he has a reputation of being incompetent and uncooperative (as his avoidance of serious TV debates highlights). A coalition with him wouldn't last six months. His manifesto fits on one sheet of A4 and shows even less depth than Trump's tweets. And no, the Netherlands won't Nexit. No, it won't ban mosques.

    France? If Le Pen wins, you will see the Touquet agreement nixed and all those undesirable illegals in Calais will move to Dover. And France will play hardball in the Brexit negotiations because it doesn't give a rat's ass about the UK. There is a reason Nigel Farage doesn't like Le Pen.

    You need to get off your little fantasy that other countries in the EU will exit, and that if they did, they would be Britain's best pal. People who hate the EU generally hate other countries, period.
     
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  2. Harlequin

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    calm down boy!

    you completely misread what I said; Geert Wilders has divided The Netherlands in a `new and interesting` way , and that's interesting as in the Chinese proverb. The VVD has its work cut out to form a sensible coalition against the PVV and in a short space of time , none of the 140 days it has taken previously.

    Maybe I should put a trigger warning for you Nexxo and you have risen to this bait (which I am smirking about) but didn't you say I want to watch the world burn?

    Poland wont leave , they have got the hump over the Tusk vote and the slapping the French have just given them. You mention Le Pen? is the far left currently in charge really any better than the far right?
     
  3. Nexxo

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    The point is that ironically, the best that the UK can hope for is a stable and relaxed EU. Nationalist governments are nobody's friend.

    So remember:

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  4. Harlequin

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    The question is - what will May do on Monday? The lords have a simple amendment with cross bench support of the provision to protect the rights of EU nationals.

    As Nexxo has said , will the UK take the moral high ground , even if Junckers then wants to punish the UK?
     
  5. Nexxo

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    Unlikely. The Brexiteers are approaching this with the worst, most corrupted mindset possible. The very fact that they keep going on about Junckers wanting to "punish" the UK testifies to that.
     
  6. Harlequin

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    Well Junckers from an EU political stand point needs to stand up for the needs of the EU both against its own members and those outside, so of course he will want to `teach a lesson` that you do not get your cake and eat it if you want to leave.
     
  7. walle

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    It could weaken NATO long term, I think that would be the main reason.
     
  8. Nexxo

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    No. There is no "teaching a lesson" (see what I mean)? That is purely the rhetoric from the British tabloids. What the EU is getting frustrated with is the notion of the UK that not being able to continue having all the perks of the club after you leave it, is unreasonable and vindictive somehow.
     
  9. Nexxo

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    Interesting. What did you have for breakfast?
     
  10. Harlequin

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    talking of rhetoric:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39242707

     
  11. Anfield

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    Erdogan calling someone a fascist...

    I thought we would have to wait a bit longer to hear the most ironic statement of the year.
     
  12. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Mrs May from a United Kingdom stand point wouldn't want Scotland to be better off being independent and most people would probably understand that point of view as if they were better off what would that say about the union of the UK.
     
  13. Gareth Halfacree

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    I got concerned that you might have missed Nexxo's response on the last page, so figured I'd join in: what did you have for breakfast?
     
  14. walle

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    I didn't miss the response, if I wanted to inform the community of what I had for breakfast I would do so in the dedicated breakfast thread, not out of a request.
     
  15. wolfticket

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    Wait, this isn't the breakfast thread?

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  16. Yadda

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    It's Coco Pops, isn't it?

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  17. Gareth Halfacree

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    It's not a request; it's a question made as part of a discussion you've been having in the thread. You asked me questions too, remember, and I answered them in order to further the discussion. Not sure why you're so resistant to doing the same - especially as you got quite shirty when I had the temerity not to answer one of your questions earlier in the thread (which is why I made sure to answer it when you asked it again.)

    Now, what did you have for breakfast?
     
  18. Byron C

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    ...And we're off again! :hehe:
     
  19. walle

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    Having posted it +20 times turns it into more than a request.

    Most questions are requests, requests for answers, unless they are rhetorical. If you answered my request it could be because it had bearing on what was being discussed, had you not answered it when asked a second time I would not have pushed the matter +20 times but instead respected your decision not to answer and moved on.
     
  20. Nexxo

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    Yeah, but what did you have for breakfast though?

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