E.U: Leave or Stay? Your thoughts.

I dont think things are going to be anywhere near as bad as what some would try and have us believe, although I do get that there is going to be some hurt to come for our choice to leave the EU. I guess it’s a question of how much hurt it takes before it becomes more than it was worth voting to leave.

 

I do, but I'm unsure how you've managed to link someone using the Internet during work hours and using it more than health (whatever that means) with policies written into contracts that, normally, covers things like porn, pirating, offensive, offending, and revealing confidential business information.

 

Internet usage policies very often cover using the internet for personal reasons during working time, more specifically barring such usage in working hours. It’s called skiving in layman’s terms, as I suspect you already knew ;-)

Regards the health aspect, obsessive behaviour can be damaging. Seems there are some obsessed here. Telling it how I see it.

 

#JustSayin

And FWIW many employers do allow limited personal use (within reason) these days

 

And there are just as many who don’t.

 

It's pretty much already "bad" and we've not even left yet, there's the £600 less per year for each household, the £20bn hit to the UK economy, flat or falling productivity, and that's just the big picture.

And you're basing that on evidence i assume because, like Byron C said, most employers are pretty relax about that sort of thing, especially when you work in IT.

 

So what evidence are you basing your statement on Corky. If you’re going to call me out for not showing evidence then please don’t go and do the same yourself. Makes you look a bit of a tit to be fair ;-)

As for the most employers in IT allow personal internet use in working hours, you must have had some cool bosses then, because when I was a web developer I wasn’t. I worked in quite a few roles too and none of them allowed it. I could have a browse on breaks and at lunch though. Now as an employer I speak to many other employers, as part of the business networks I am a member of and we do talk about working policies. Guess what, internet usage is normally a pretty hot topic. Nothing gets employers more fired up than employees getting paid to skive.

 

I'm not the one who made the claim, you are so the burden of proof falls on you I'm afraid.

Yea we can't have happy and contented employees.

 

Lame to be fair. If you are telling someone they are wrong, don’t just throw the handbag and dummy and expect everyone to fall into your line of thinking. Back it up or it’s a waste of effort. What would you like to argue next Corky, sky isn’t blue?

Again very lame and quite childish too.

So telling an employee that during the hours that they are paid to work, they actually have to work and not browse the net causes discontent and unhappiness? You do make me larf Corky, larf lots.

 

Just because you've made a claim that you can't backup there's no need to resort to ad hominem. If you don't have evidence to prove what you claimed then it's probably best to fess up and just say it was anecdotal.

Indeed, what i find most surprising though is that a) you think IT only involves web development, b) that you believe your own personal experience is indicative of the whole, and c) that a comment you deemed not worth of a response elicited a response all the same.

Maybe you should get back to cracking the whip and making sure none of your employees have skivied off for a few minutes on the internet.

 

You lot want to ease off on the prep-school chat yeah? This is the serious discussion forum.

 

No I don’t assume IT means web development. Let’s look at it this way then Corky. You show me one employment contract that does allow for personal internet usage during contracted working hours, not just in break times, then show me how many employers use such a contract and I’ll gladly admit I’m wrong.

As for my employees, I trust them, got a good bunch, so no need to overwatch tirelessly. Their productivity is great, I’m happy and they are too. If they came to me and asked if I minded that they use the net for something personal during working hours, I wouldn’t have a problem. Things such as booking the motor in for an MOT, stuff like that that just needs doing.

If someone came for a job and expected carte Blanche on the internet, they wouldn’t last long before they were shown the door. I don’t think you’d last long! Your work ethic sounds terrible ;-)

 

More than happy to, unfortunately it seems someone is more concerned with telling others how they should be living their lives and conducting themselves during what they assume are work hours than actually having a serious discussion.

EDIT: For the health of the forums it's probably best just to add him to my ignore list as i have a low tolerance of bigots.

 

Hypocrite springs to mind. Pulls people up on not show8ng evidence then goes and does the same thing himself. Makes childish retorts to posts, then criticises others who he deems to be acting childish. Very hypocritical but good for a giggle ;-)

Edit: so now I’m a bigot? Wow that escalated quickly. Am I a bigot because I don’t agree with employees skiving when they should be working, by wasting time on the internet? Or am I a bigot because I used the term “remoaners”?

Here was me thinking a bigot was someone who treated others differently/ adversely or looked down on others due to their race, religion, gender or any other differentiating factor?

 

I'm in your forums, during working hours. But on my mobile phone, so no office internet policy was violated.

Still, it is lovely to see people making a concerted effort going out of the way in their happy, unconcerned, not-bothered-by-Brexit lives to visit this particular forum thread just to take umbrage to other people's expressed views on Brexit. Makes us feel all special.

 

This is the serious thread Mankz!! Please do show some decorum! ;-)

 

I could live with that, if they'd just bring back the awesome Victorian engineering and architecture... :/

 

Trouble is where are we going get the cheap labour from.

 

So the only thing that will prove you wrong is an unrestricted AUP that has no reason to exist due to the fact it is unrestricted so there's nothing to commit to paper?