E.U: Leave or Stay? Your thoughts.

I chuckled

 

So project reality struck again.

Where would they find someone else to be the legal arbiter? Found some new brexit Court in the time left?
The drama when May tries to pass it through parliament after their holiday will be fun to watch though

 

Interesting. My Twitter timeline is getting absolutely bombarded with propaganda from the "Exiting the EU Dept" lately, apparently an official government Twitter account. Their main/only point seems to be that the EU has made many "unprecedented deals" before, implying...?
They're still trying to get into the single market without abiding to the 4 Freedoms, aren't they?

vvv notice they're specifically targeting Belgian adults

 

The result aside which are probably correct.

Sample of 1,466 Sky customers online 20-23 July 2018.

This is what really annoys me about a lot of polls, that sample size is laughable not to mentioned biased towards the type of people to be sky customers and fill in an online form.

 

Sky has 12 million customers though --a fairly large pool to pick from. And Sky does try to sample representatively (I suspect that it can make uncannily good predictions about its customers' demographic characteristics just by analysing their viewing patterns).

The Sidney Herald posts the following:

 

Not only are they trying to get single market access without abiding by the 4 freedoms, they are even trying to cherry pick parts of the single market and expect the EU to rewrite their rules to suit the demands of the UK.

 

How big a sample would you like? My stats is very rusty, but survey monkey has a sample size 'calculator' and for a population of 65.64mil, with a confidence interval of 95% and a margin of error of 3% they suggest a sample of 1,068. However, it'd obviously be biased against people who can't afford any of sky's products.

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My issue with all these polls is the same.

It means nothing. There's no turning back anymore. If the government did somehow cough up a chance for the public to vote on the deal they don't get Vs staying, I'd not be surprised if the EU said "tough, get out" anyway for all the drama and nonsense the UK has caused.

 

Oh, I see the problem. Re-upped to imgur, should be working now I think.

 

It does give an indication of how well Brexit is succeeding at meeting the expectations of the electorate...

 

Kind of a how long is a piece of string qs really depends how many inbuilt biases there are to the survey you want to conduct, stats tend to assume it’s completely random.
The above for example says it’s the British publics view, when it’s actually the views of Sky customers, who have the internet and happened to be free on that weekend etc etc.


These ones aren’t as bad, but I think we should be ban polling in run ups to elections or votes because they influence people’s decisions.
Eg. People that didn’t vote because most of the polls showed remain was going to win and they assumed it as fact.

 

Something (nearly) most of us had assumed would be the case before the ridiculous referendum was held at all.

 

I'd imagine that Skys customers would probably represent a fair assessment of the UK pop that can afford their services, i.e. there wouldn't be much difference between sky/talktalk/plusnet/virgin etc, it's not like any broadband/tv company is represented as the we hate or love the EU company so join us for those reasons. However those who can't afford broadband or a paid tv service regardless of company would obviously not be represented. Point being I seem to remember reading the poorest areas were more likely to vote leave, if this is correct then those people may well not be represented by one of these polls.

I completely agree with people deciding not to vote because of polls. It'll happen in any vote, though I'm not sure I'd blame the poll. Part of me thinks all votes should be compulsory and each should have an abstain option.

Ta, it is!

 

It's sort of on the long side but if you have an hour to spare/waste this video of three blokes in a pub covers some relevant points.

 

Well, that's awkward...

 

Tough, there's no going back now, some of the metropolitan 'elites' are set to earn a tidy sum out of Brexit, the public have served their purpose.

 

Indeed. The people™ are about to have a harsh lesson in democracy™.

 

Yea but that's from the guardian which is full of liberal lefty hipsters.
Also, new video

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-monaco-move-tax-haven-eu-leave-a8484211.html

"Sir Jim Ratcliffe: UK's richest man and ardent Brexiteer is moving to Monaco"

More rats leaving the ship?

 

Not the only one. John Cleese supported Brexit and is leaving for the Caribbean, and Nigel Farage also stated that he would leave the UK if Brexit turned out to be a disaster. Nigel Lawson has, of course, already applied for French residency.

I guess only the turkeys will be left behind to face the Christmas that they voted for.