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E.U: Leave or Stay? Your thoughts.

Discussion in 'Serious' started by TheBlackSwordsMan, 22 Feb 2016.

  1. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Lists of names and dates mainly. And how to answer standardised questions with the requisite answer.

    Knowing every king and queen of England might serve you well in a pub quiz but that's about it.
     
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  2. Nexxo

    Nexxo Queue Jumper

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    It's cultural indoctrination. Know your heritage, know your hierarchy, know your place.

     
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  3. Anfield

    Anfield Well-Known Member

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    Brexit: The gift that keeps on giving...

    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...preparing-no-deal-brexit-ordered-to-sign-ndas
     
  4. Corky42

    Corky42 What did walle eat for breakfast?

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    Not the first AFAIK, loads of companies, NGO's and people have been forced to sign NDA's.

    You can't control what you're unaware of. #takebackcontrol.
     
  5. Nexxo

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    Basically the root problem with Brexit: unknown unknowns = unconscious incompetence.
     
  6. Corky42

    Corky42 What did walle eat for breakfast?

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    Some of them aren't even unknown unknowns as politicians are making conscious decisions to ignore them.

    The NI border is a problem...No, No it's not....Yes it is....No it's not we're going to solve it with wishful thinking and fairy dust.
     
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    On a plus side, i've just seen the Italian Parliament on tv - it makes the UK one look positively serene.

    #barrelscraping
     
  8. Nexxo

    Nexxo Queue Jumper

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    Well, that's awkward:

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    Not so much awkard but infuriating beyond belief.
     
  10. Nexxo

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    Well...

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    We shall see...
     
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    Here's hoping.

    And here's hoping if there is people will vote based on facts rather than what's in the mystery box.
     
  12. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Brexit aside I have a qs, is it possible not to live in some kind of hierarchy?
     
  14. Corky42

    Corky42 What did walle eat for breakfast?

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    I'd be more worried about the 150 odd investment treaties that we're signed up to, even if Mrs May's deal gets through parliament we're still opening ourselves up to being sued by foreign companies who've invested in the UK, doubly so if we leave without a withdrawal agreement.

    One half of the government is going to be tied up with trying to re-negotiate the 150 treaties we're already a part of while the other half will be trying to win court battles with companies who've seen the value of their investment all but wiped out.
     
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  18. Corky42

    Corky42 What did walle eat for breakfast?

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    I wonder if Leave supports have considered that it's inevitable that we'll rejoin the EU at some point in the future only on far worse terms than we currently have, like adopting the single currency, being part of schengen, not having a rebate, not being able to opt-out of closer political union, etc, etc.

    It's inevitable isn't it? Support for leaving is already waning, it's probably going to impact peoples lives in a negative manner, and there's a complete lack of reasoned discourse from people who supported leaving.

    It's not like after women fought for the vote, slavery was made illegal, or basic human rights became a thing that people just said "right job done" and moved on, and yet it seems Brexit supports have so isn't rejoining on worse terms inevitable?
     
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    I’m not so sure, depends how you see Europe panning out in the future which could change Peoples perspectives.
     
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    ^As above, it depends and on what the EU will look like in the future.

    Over chats in Austria there's not much faith in it remaining, well not as it is in its current form, not with the problems in numerous countries and ones seemingly just taking and not contributing. Then again, this is just people talking.

    Mind you I still hope we can stay and help shape its future.
     

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