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E.U: Leave or Stay? Your thoughts.

Discussion in 'Serious' started by TheBlackSwordsMan, 22 Feb 2016.

  1. Corky42

    Corky42 What did walle eat for breakfast?

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    Paywall.

    Presumably that’s public sector pensions?
     
  4. Nexxo

    Nexxo Queue Jumper

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    Pension pots of private sector work pensions, surprisingly.
     
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  5. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Would it be the same pension pot they constantly bash Gordon Brown for dipping into?

    Because like everything, it's only bad when Labour do it.
     
  6. Anfield

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    The Brown pension thing was about final salary pensions (something that basically doesn't exist any more).
    This current proposal is about the newish (introduced in the last decade) pension that everyone (the one with default opt in) has at work.

    And in "no one is surprised" news: There is now talk of May delaying the new vote on the deal until the end of February...
    Because if at first you lose by over 200 votes just kick the can down the road:wallbash:
     
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  7. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Trying to find some more people to bribe no doubt.
     
  8. Risky

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    Well sensible in the short term for sure as they have failed to prepare for leaving the customs union. In the long term, probably a good thing unless you think like Trump.


    It's worth reading that more closely. The point is that if someone starts a pension at 18 or 21, then investing in AAA bonds isn't really a great way of getting return. Changing the rules to allow a greater percentage into equities and also into unlisted investments such as venture capital is going to be good for overall returns. As you get closer to retirement age an increasing share of your pension should be in safer securities and ultimately cash as it becomes more important to maintain the established value.


    Or you can just rubbish it and make up a scare story ofc.
     
  9. Anfield

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    For about 5 minutes until America and China throw a hissy fit over the "evil" UK giving the EU preferential treatment... and the chance of wobbly Maybot standing up to kind of pressure rather than selling us out is lower than the chance of getting eaten by a shark on top of Mount Everest at the exact moment you find out you won the lottery.
     
  10. Corky42

    Corky42 What did walle eat for breakfast?

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    I'm not sure the people who voted for Trump in the rust belt would agree and I'm not sure our farmers would agree.
     
  11. Risky

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    Trump is in favour of high tariffs, against free trade.
     
  12. Corky42

    Corky42 What did walle eat for breakfast?

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    Exactly, high tariffs are meant to protect your workforce or an industry, it's why i said scrapping all tariffs probably isn't something steel worker in America and Farmers in the UK would consider to be a good thing.
     
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    .....meant to protect particular industries with lobbyists and political connections at the expense of the population at large.


    fixed that for you.
     
  14. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    I was in a different room today, for my German course, and this was on the wall;

    [​IMG]

    Tickled me a little.
     
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  15. Archtronics

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    What do you work as?
     
  16. adidan

    adidan Avatar now in stock for xmas 2019

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    I see Tusk's comments about a special place in hell for brexit promoters who had no plan has been twisted into the EU hate leave voters. It seems it's been acceptable to manipulate comments into something else just to enrage people.

    This most vocal group who shout "snowflake" appear to be by far the most snowflakey.
     
  17. Anfield

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    You can't just opt out of something every other major economy is doing as they would crush the UK like a bug.

    And in case you think they are going to treat us as friends rather after brexit rather than seeing it as an opportunity to loot us:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/27/bre...unity-to-steal-trade-from-uk-wilbur-ross.html
     
  18. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    And remain-leaning types shout 'bravo, spot on!' whilst totally glossing over the fact he also called Corbyn and the wider remain/pv movement useless [more or less].
     
  19. adidan

    adidan Avatar now in stock for xmas 2019

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    Indeed. I agree with him on that too.

    The whole thing was again twisted to polarise the leavers/remainers. It's irresponsible but it's easy.
     
  20. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Also the bid at the end -

    Leo Varadkar - They [the British Press] will give you hell for this

    Donald Tusk - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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