E.U: Leave or Stay? Your thoughts.

I do, I live here with my EU partner.

I don't like giving up or giving in unless faced with a better option or a convincing reasoned argument.

 

Marry your EU partner, thus acquiring EU citizenship rights, and just GTFO of Dodge. I'm only still here because I'm in my 50's and on double pension years. Else I would have been up and gone by now.

 

Yeah, a court has said that but unless the house says it and rescinds actions taken based on the referendum, it means about the square root of bumhole all.

I accept that, but having been exactly the same, I'd suggest leaving. The UK isn't going to get better with or without the rescinding of A50 at this point.

 

We came back from NZ, family is here (Europe), my partner loves her career and being here, that ain't happening.

Me? I'd live anywhere.

 

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Interesting 'whether the deal passes or not'.

 

I wonder. EU not impressed, May's not brought anything new.

So if MV3 is allowed to take place and gets defeated, again, I wonder... By the 28th March calls a GE and resigns and EU grant a long extension?

 

After you get a possible itty-bitty extension and WA2 with a mustache gets rejected, I wonder if the EU will bother to give you a larger extension even if May calls for a General Election? A GE doesn't put the country on course. It's still the same MPs in parliament bar a few seats switched here and there.

I think a second referendum will be necessary for the longer extension, otherwise it's the same old with a different robot.

 

Still calling it: the UK will crash out without a deal.

 

I'll be in denial about that until it happens.

I see Provincial Dutch results are troubling, you need to knock that on the head - let our stupidity be a lesson for all my European cousins.

 

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At least you have options if brexit does, as expected, tank the country so hard poverty is more common that decent toilet paper.

 

I can't see 2nd referendum happening or rescinding A50 now. The opposition to May's deal or no deal was doomed from the start because of too many different interests fragmenting the effectiveness of power. You have one side the coalition of 2nd referendum supporters like Green Party, Plaid Cymru and so on, you have the other side supporter of soft Brexit, you have the other side absolutely no compromise with Brexit must revoke A50 and then you have personal interests in the background, exploiting for political points and gains. The splitting up and forming a new movement weakening didn't help. TBH, we haven't learn our lessons from the referendum campaign.

 

On the upside, Wilders' PVV lost seats, and the Greens won almost as much as FvD did.

And the Netherlands has a written constitution, which makes it near impossible to hold and enact a Nexit referendum (certainly not on a 52% majority).

 

There is hope, that's good news to hear.

 

Yeah I heard the Greens doubled, is that right?

Pffft, a constitution - probably written by 'experts', what do they know?

 

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EU giving May a plan as she has none beyond ranting about her 'deal'

Either WA and leave or something else has to be brought to the EU, that date in April is about the time we have to notify them if we're taking part in EU elections AFAIK.

Edit: @Nexxo looks like you may be a couple of weeks out

 

Revoke A50 petition now at over 1.9 million

 

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Only if the deal passes, which it won't. No-deal is still scheduled for the 29th.

 

Nope. The draft says April 12th if WA is not passed. That date is unconditional.

Edit: petition has hit 2 million