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E.U: Leave or Stay? Your thoughts.

Discussion in 'Serious' started by TheBlackSwordsMan, 22 Feb 2016.

  1. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Also every living former PM is against it... even spameron... and spameron doesn't have anything resembling a spine or coherent opinion on anything.
     
  2. Byron C

    Byron C And now a word from our sponsor

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    To be perfectly honest though, this thread is an echo chamber. There is no dissenting opinion or debate any more, and it is the same few people posting regularly.

    The problem is.... after over four years, no one has yet presented a case for leaving the EU that has stood up to scrutiny. We've done this all before and we've said it all before. So to someone who hasn't been following everything since day 1, or hasn't followed Brexit news, then it is going to reek of echo chamber in here.

    To be clear: echo chambers aren't inherently a bad thing, they are a great opportunity for like-minded people to connect. But it's very easy to fall into tribal group-think and shun the 'other'.
     
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    bawjaws Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you here.
     
  4. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Often when people complain of echo chambers, it being an echo chamber isn't what they take issue with. Their issue is it's not echoing what they think, if it was they wouldn't have a problem with it.

    Likewise bias, they're fine with bias, as long as your biases align with theirs.
     
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  5. Nexxo

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  6. bawjaws

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    To be fair, although I couldn't resist the temptation to post that, I do actually mean it to a certain extent. Saying that this thread is an echo chamber because there's no dissenting opinion is manifestly false, as evidenced by the last 24 hours :D Of course, when the holders of said dissenting opinions run away crying about echo chambers then it's something of a self-fulfilling prophecy, isn't it?
     
  7. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    True, dat. SD forum has some fierce debate. Which comes with being challenged, and having to present good argument.
     
  8. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    When Ed wipes the floor with you you're in trouble.
     
  9. bawjaws

    bawjaws Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, Ed was always pretty good at PMQs back in the day. And that was against Cameron who is infinitely slicker than Boris ever could be.
     
  10. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Ed's problem was he didn't eat a bacon sandwich photogenically and [at the time] was seen as the wrong Miliband.
     
  11. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    It was a bit tongue in cheek.

    And no i'm not talking about DC and the porcine. :)
     
  12. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Disappointed, but not surprised.
     
  13. Byron C

    Byron C And now a word from our sponsor

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    You know what? I had a whole essay written out here, and then @Gareth Halfacree posted this....

    ...and now I just want to go to bed, I don't have the energy for SD this evening! :)
     
  14. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    This may or may not cheer you:



     
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  15. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Well-Known Member

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    Bojo in PMQ's isn't getting destroyed, he just isn't taking part. He's doing the Trump thing of sitting there pulling stupid faces because he knows he desn't have to do anything and his legion of yes men will get whatever he wants through.

    It was fun watching him suffer against Starmer, but now he's figured out that it doesn't actually matter it's getting quite sad to watch.
     
  16. Anfield

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    Don't despair just yet... there are rumours of amendments coming to the bill next week, so Boris might end up travelling the same road as May and deploy the three line whip against his own legislation.
     
  17. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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  18. perplekks45

    perplekks45 LIKE AN ANIMAL!

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    No matter what one thinks about Brexit, this is just turning into more and more of a mess now.
     
  19. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    I would love to know what year the people who voted in favour of that bill think it is.

    I suspect they think it's still prime time for the British Empire..
     
  20. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Worst. Panto. Season. Ever.
     
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