Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 30 Aug 2011.
If competition is good they should put there games back on steam...
Dear Jans Uwe,
You have a terrible grasp of the English language.
"Competition is good." Except for BF3 it appears?
If I need to create an origin account and or install an Origin client on my PC in order to play any EA game I will not purchase any EA game.
translation; "we have no credibility, don't believe anything we say because we are just telling you what you want to hear.
Use Origin. "
"In other news, Activision-Blizzard decided to release all of their games through Battle.Net. In a press release CEO Wu-Evar welcomes games from other publishers.
There are also rumours of U-Play, a similar DD platform for Ubisoft published titles.
Now, the weather..."
Kind of a one way street isnt it
EA are going to ruin the direct distribution concept by fracturing it
so im going to need steam, uplay AND origins, jeez
while he said releases will not be exclusive didnt mention DLC did he ?
oh bought a game and want the expansion do you INSTALL origin BITCH!!!
don't know why they cant just use steam, it works everyone involved in a product, gets a cut, and you only need 1 piece of client software, i think greed is the major player here, EA"we want all the money from our products, and don't want to share it"
Since when does a publisher actually say anything true and useful.
I like how he is actually suggesting: "we will continue to put our products at comical high values on Origin, and let our competitors sell at prices slightly cheaper, therefore the consumer perceives a bargain/better price."
And before some one leaps to their defence of rising prices, they have had increased market growth to offset the increase in cost to make a game.
I also agree that the number of accounts needed just to play a few games is getting ridiculous (which is why I oppose account based drm).
But when Mojang states that Steam isn't useful, people all nod their heads and agree, or shrug and not give a damn.
EA is going to have to convince other publishers that they are trustworthy partners, then they are going to need to convince other publishers (or more accurately, competitors) to share game profits with them.
It is one thing publishers supporting a publisher like Valve (who are fairly inoffensive as publishers go), but EA and Activision don't have the best of relationships (see recent MW3/BF3 bitch slaps at dawn), and they aren't going to want to contribute to EA's financial statements.
If they do that, they are then going to have to convince customers to support their service, which is also going to be hard given their history of not supporting their previous digital distribution service and generally screwing over their users. It also doesn't help that they said they were going to scan the hard drives of Origin users, gather private data and then sell the data they collect to third parties. Nice going EA. At least Steam gives you the option to opt out of the HW Survey.
I wasn't happy about Steam to begin with, but at least I **liked** Valve and up to a point trusted them. And over the years, they have put the runs on the board regarding Steam so I now don't have a problem buying games with them.
I have no such feelings for EA.
I have no such confidence in EA.
I will not be buying games from EA through Origin.
I will not be using Origin to authenticate games bought through retail.
Will this mean not buying some games? Yes.
Will it mean not playing games I love? Yes
I will miss playing Battlefield 3, Mass Effect 3 or any other game tied to Origin, but gaming isn't my entire life and I have a backlog of unplayed games to take up my playing time.
They have actually confirmed they wont be selling identifiable data to third parties
still far from perfect but I wont be missing out on BF3, ME3 etc etc over this
This really makes my pish boil. I already have Steam and GFWL (not through choice). Steam works really well, GFWL...not so much. I have lost many save games because of GFWL. I really want to play Diablo 3 and Battlefield 3, but will have to get Battle.net and Origin aswell. My computer is constantly being sodomized with software I don't want, but need if I want to play some great games. I mean, I bought Batman: AA on Steam and had to install GFWL to play it? Bah! Same with Dirt.
I hate to admit it, but gaming on my PS3/Xbox 360 is becoming so much less hassle. All the big Publishers are trying to lock down their products on PCs, for whatever reason, which is really not doing PC Gaming any favours. This is a bad move from EA, they have probably already invested significant amounts of time, money and resources into the project so their clearly fully committed to the project and there probably is nothing that can be done. I guess this is just the nature of having an open gaming platform like the PC, as opposed to PSN and Xbox Live.
Regarding the EULA update, I downloaded the client at the weekend and it certainly did not read like the article read. It is still the old EULA for Origin, if they have updated it, they need to update the client as well.. (I choose at this time not to install it).
If I really want to play BF3 it looks like I'll be getting the Xbox version as that doesn't use Origin (afaik). I might wait for release before purchase so see if there are any teething troubles. Then again, if I do that, I miss out on the pre-order bonus, so I might not bother at all.
I know it's annoying for us, but you're living on Mars is you think EA should just stick everything on Steam and be done with it.
The point of a capitalist system is that companies are able to try new things and compete. Depending on whether or not the new things work financially decides if they stay or go.
Steam is a goldmine for Valve. If I were a shareholder in EA, I would expect them to try something similar. If I worked for EA, I sure as hell would try something similar.
If Origin turns out to be crap, EA will scrap it. But it's important they at least have a go at it for the sake of competition. Put it this way, if Origin turns out to be awesome, the worsed thing that happens is we get a better experience from our digital distribution.
I'm going to support EA on this one. They have every right to attempt to emulate Valve's success, especially with their own games. I hope they fail, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to try.
re The possibilty of EA scrapping Origin if its crap:-
GFWL is crap and Microsoft didn't scrap that so I reckon unless its a dead duck EA will simply plough on regardless. The only way they'll take notice is if there is an en-mass boycott of Origin and that is highly unlikley so I'm afraid we're gonna get stuck with it unless its a total disaster.
Now read article 4 of the new EULA:
Separate names with a comma.